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« on: October 17, 2008, 21:48 » |
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Hello good guys. Lately, I can't find any inspiration to keep posting on LTS... but I keep participating on other forums as always. Something happened to me or something happened to LTS? Judging on the dropping activity, I'm not the only one who's feeling the same. Maybe we should do something with it? Sadly, I can't even see any good solution - except for temporarily close the forum like I suggested once in the past. To give LTS a global vacation for a week or for a month.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 22:01 » |
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I'm getting an odd sense of deja vu....  Seriously Serge, don't worry about it!
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 22:28 » |
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I'm getting an odd sense of deja vu....  Me too...  I guess it's that certain time of the year again - exams in school, fall holidays, you name it. Usually, the situation will resolve itself in a few days.  Closing the forum won't do any good though...
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 22:39 » |
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Administrator asking such a question??? World is going mad... Seriously, Dagdamor, a little activity, you say, but... what about us? Newbies? I'm, for example, still exploring threads, some users are still posting new pictures (i'll do that soon  ) I think, it's just a time when everybody has already said "Goodbye" to summer, to vacations and they are ready, at this moment, for a hard working, for studying etc. Every thing in our life has periodical regime (correct me, if i'm wrong). So, your suggestion to close LTS makes me fell little depressed  ...Or is there some other reason to do that? To close LTS? If not, then I'm asking you: please, don't even think about it...  UPD: while i was typing, Andreas had already posted my thoughts =) See, Dagdamor? I'm not the only one who's thinking the same. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 22:42 » |
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The forum didnt get many posts in the last days, yes. It's also not a new that you became somewhat of a stranger to LTS dag, so you should ask yourself what is that doesn't appeal you anymore of this forum  Yo umight get close to the solution. Closing wouldnt surely help it get more posts anyways, it would just assure we?d get 0 per day. We had this discussion many, many times before... this is the rythm of the forum ,this is how it goes, accept it. People are still talking and contacting each other outside the forum which is imho as, if not more, important and welcome. I personally had an HORRIBLE week and i'm trying to forget about it. P.S. To the new members of the forum : Do not worry, LTS wont be closed, this is just a recurring thread that holds no real menaces to the board  but it worked in the past, might work now.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 22:56 » |
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I'm not trying to blackmail you, i.e. "post or I will close it" - I'm suggesting something that IMHO could help. Marco, you don't understand me. When LTS is closed, there will be no activity of course, but that time will give us the possibility and reason to sort out RL and offline stuff, to think whether this place important for us, to get some nice ideas for discussions. And when we reopen it, we'll revive the place instead of seeing how it slowly dies like now.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 23:13 » |
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I'm getting tired of repeating myself in these threads, Serge. Honestly, LTS will have periods of low activity, and each member will just have to take it for what it is. Marco said it perfectly - closing the forum would help nothing, it would only guarantee that there are no posts to come back to. I don't know why you keep considering closing this place every time activity gets low - all it seems like to me is an act of "That'll teach them to not post on my forum!" Obviously that isn't your intention, but that's what it usually seems like at first glance.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 23:20 » |
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When LTS is closed, there will be no activity of course, but that time will give us the possibility and reason to sort out RL and offline stuff, to think whether this place important for us, to get some nice ideas for discussions. Sorting out RL stuff and thinking up new ideas work just as fine if the forum is not closed. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2008, 00:41 » |
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Chill Daggy. It's the same old, same old. This has already happened once and will probably happen again, so let it ride for right now. I personally havent even touched the internet for over a week due to my job training lasting 17 hours a day, so i dont usually bother with my computer, i sleep. Just give it some time and it will pass.
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2008, 01:11 » |
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I don't understand why you reaction is so negative, people... George especially. Again, I'm not trying to push on you, to force posting here or anything - I'm trying to suggest the way to make things better. Today, when they practically can't get worse, we won't lose anything if we try that - maybe unusual - way. When I ask you about closing LTS, I mean close it temporarily, not forever, just for a week or such. If that period frightens you - okay, let it be few days. But how can you tell me it won't work if we never tried? And if you know better solutions (except for "let's just wait, someday it will sort out itself"), please voice them. Something tells me that you don't... AndreasSorting out RL stuff and thinking up new ideas work just as fine if the forum is not closed. Looks like it's not the same...
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 01:34 » |
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I personally think that would do more damage to the community in the long run.
I would assume that there are a lot of people out there lurking deciding to become a member. If the forum goes offline they may think the site is gone and not come back, this we may loose some potential members. I lurked for a couple of months before I joined. If the site had gone off for a few days I doubt i would of come back, I would of just looked elsewhere.
Like has been siad a few mew members on are catching up on the old posts and going offline will stop them from catching up.
I check in to this place every day to read topics or ead some older stuff. Going offline would upset me quite a bit. Wen I post its often due to something on my mind at the time and i put it to paper so to speak. If the site is offline a lot of potentially good posts will be lost. Also aftet the site comes back there will nothing new to read so people may not bother to check back for awhile.
For some people LTS is a part of thier real life. Some of thier friends are here, thier interests and hobbies
Taking the site offline will do little more than fustrate members and may have the totally opposite post to what is intended.
One idea that is being tried seems to be working, thats the chat days, a lot of chat and ideas come out of the chat sessions and some stuff was posted here. Just when we are getting that going, pulling the plug on the forums may kill that too, as a lot of people check LTS seeing who is online and then check the chat. I think the chat days need to be given a chance to make this family even closer, rather than a closure which will make people try elsewhere and give the possibility they will stay elsewhere.
I think LTS is more than just the forums its the community its growing in to. PMs are used a lot by me, and i often chat to certain members. Yesterday there wasnt many posts at all, i think 1 from belbarto. But fridays are often fairly quiet. People finish work and often go out. My forums hardly ever gets many posting on fridays. the days before there were a lot more posts, not as many as usual but no way "dead"
From what I have seen of some threads, some people ask suggestions but the forum staff are not here to reply (due to absolutely no fault of themselves i know the problems serge and Marco face.) I think this may put some people off as they may wrongly think nobody is taking care of the forums.
Maybe it could be tried some moderator jobs or another more active admin who is around at different time. Maybe giving people responsibility in the forums will give more interest.
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 03:10 » |
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DagdamorI don't understand why you reaction is so negative, people... George especially. Well, what do you want us to say? I mean we've all seen this before, and each time we have to just tell you "It's okay, the forum won't close, relax"... you'd think that after going through this several times before we'd have reached a new level of understanding. But two years after the forum got started, we're still just runnin' over the same old ground. Carl had a good point when he said: I check in to this place every day to read topics or ead some older stuff. Going offline would upset me quite a bit. Wen I post its often due to something on my mind at the time and i put it to paper so to speak. If the site is offline a lot of potentially good posts will be lost. Also aftet the site comes back there will nothing new to read so people may not bother to check back for awhile. Usually when somebody posts something, they have the will and drive to post it. If someone has an epiphany let's say, they're thinking about it and they want somewhere to put it down. If the forum's not here, they won't have a place to post it up and they may lose that drive to post by the time the forum comes back. I'm not being hostile here, just honest.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 04:53 » |
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G.H. Did you understand what you did just say? It actually sounds like "Serge, we had this several times before, and every time you suggest something, we have to tell you off instead of trying to understand you." Never thought such a treatment is what makes me a stranger to LTS lately, like Marco said? Yes, sometimes it pisses me off that suggesting you something is just breaking through a brick wall. I regret I made this thread at all; before, I felt bad about low activity at LTS, now I feel even worse because I see that nobody (at least you) cares.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 04:57 » |
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Dagdamor It's not that nobody cares, it's the simple fact that you notice it more than everyone else. Naturally, I mean, since you're the father of this forum - but seriously. I understand you - I just don't agree with you. Can't you see that? I'm not posting "Oh Serge, shut up, I don't want to hear it," what I'm trying to say is that you need to just accept these things as they come. Yes LTS is a great place when it's active, but it's not worth closing when it's inactive. Even as a temporary solution, that solves nothing. It seems more like a punishment actually.
Maybe the language barrier is causing my posts to sound harsh - and I'm not trying to be. I'm just being straightforward.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 05:41 » |
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I regret I made this thread at all; before, I felt bad about low activity at LTS, now I feel even worse because I see that nobody cares.
you are wrong friend... LTS is very important to every memeber of this forum...Serge you need force and hope... tomorrow is a new day, and is necesary think with calm in the past, the life is a circle and LTS is a home to new members, ... hope... after of the clouds the sun exist... always... and lisa is as a sunflower ... she need your sun to live... PS: and to me LTS is a important part of my life.... Lisa says: up Serge!!!!
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2008, 08:08 » |
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I felt bad about low activity at LTS, now I feel even worse because I see that nobody (at least you) cares.
I think its on the contrary serge. It's because people care and do not want to see this place offline that people have replied here with a lot of replies. We care a lot about the community, thats why we have pulled together to make some more bits to fit in with the community like the OC server, re-creating the chat room (and making other rooms). A few of us have worked together to bring those things online. And quite a few people have used or are going to use them. Serge it is a testament to you crating this place that a lot of us are passionate about this community like we are. Some of the replies may seem harsh, but they are not meant to be as GH said. Its because we care that we arepouring a lot of feeling into the cause.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2008, 09:55 » |
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I don’t know why, but it is just not easy to get new members these days. I se more then one Simpsons forum on the web, that is having low activity. LTS is by far NOT the worst. I think there is af fair amount of activity here. Trying to change thing may have to bring drastic actions. But, then you have the risk of loosing some members in the process.
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2008, 14:19 » |
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My point of view, Serge, is that you need a vacation. You said it yourself when opening this thread : Lately, I can't find any inspiration to keep posting on LTS... but I keep participating on other forums as always. Something happened to me or something happened to LTS? Because, personally, I think nothing's wrong with the forum. Activity? I often see people posting here and there some of the are founder members.... From all the forums I visit, The Talespin one, the RR one and this one, this is the one with the most activity. I speak for myself, but I prefer to have a forum like this with all its up and downs rathen than having a forum full of spam and non-sense topics. Ok, now what help can I give or try my best to give to the forum and its founder. I'm an artist not a writer, althought I have written some. I know I suck.  We have had two in-a-row competitions for art. I think is time for the writers to express themselves using some of those pictures. I might even participate on this one, too. Also, why not making a separate section of this forum for off-topic. There are lots of forums separating topic and offtopic things completely. If you Serge are afraid of the activity which is something normal -everyone and everything has ups and downs- change the design of the forum, the appearence, make it fresh. I'm not saying that is bad, but things always have to evolve. Take GFC for example, Graham added art to his design and now is more interactive than before. Things may have to change at least once a year. think about what I'm saying and if you need help with something e mail me or pm me I may be able to help, who knows.....
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2008, 18:39 » |
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I hope Dag that you didn't see hostility in my post, as it there wasn't any  I'm just trying to tell that in my opinion closing LTS temporarily is not the solution. A refresh of the design as suggested by Opus is imho a better thing. Als, let's get that competition judged once and for all (i'll give it my free time from now on), and maybe let's think about something just for the writers of the forum. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2008, 18:53 » |
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change the design of the forum, the appearence, make it fresh.
I'll say that this is one of the things that seriously needs doing. How many times have I offered to help in making a new theme now...? I've lost count.
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2008, 20:21 » |
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I've read through the other threads where activity had sunk in the past. I agree that closing it wouldn't do anything but hurt the forum. If a poster feels they need to take a week or a month off to 'vacation' from the forum they are more than free to do so, but to prevent the people who do post here on a regular basis from doing so... would not do so good.  I admit, my participation has been less these last couple weeks but I am concentrating on finding employment which, for me, is very important.
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2008, 23:34 » |
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I felt bad about low activity at LTS, now I feel even worse because I see that nobody (at least you) cares.  Seems to be, that you are completely ignoring my previous message. Is my post not an argument for keeping LTS opened??? How many petition signs do you need for accept this? Ten, Hundred?.. Your words about "nobody cares" make me feel myself like a ghost... Am i ghost? If not, reply on this post, Dagdamor. Stop sowing depression among fans' and members' hearts!!! p.s.: if you want to know, LTS (not ISFF!) is a home for me too...
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2008, 12:13 » |
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Serge, I'll keep it as breif as I can; We might have all registered to this place for our respect or love for Lisa, but I believe we stay because we are all friends.  Taking LTS down, would just break the contact we have with some of our friends... I dont think its about being active, its about being there for one another. This might be a time of trouble for you, but we're all here for you. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2008, 12:43 » |
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matrixdll You are not a ghost, but you (along with many others replied here) refuse to understand what I'm suggesting you. You just took it as some way to offend you or to kill the place. But I'm not going to repeat it once again, as well as not going to justify my words.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2008, 17:56 » |
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2008, 19:04 » |
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Serge!!! I am trying to understand your feelings .... Must be strong! http://www.lisa-simpson.net/topic/25.735 (serge.. read the lyrics of "resistire" song in this thread)...
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2008, 21:19 » |
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I'm afraid I agree with most people on here .. Relax  'Cos every little thing, is gonna be alright! *offers Serge a Lisa cookie* ^_^
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2008, 21:21 » |
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Closing the site will serve nothing more than make its demise more likely. If your the owner of a resturant and it is doing badly do you close it for a few weeks to see what happenes? No. Same goes for this site.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2008, 21:29 » |
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Oh, and Dag, Shut the fuck up.
Dude, that was totally uncalled for. Well, since I'm here, I might aswell give my opinion. Dag, closing the forum won't do any good. It will only make things worse. Everyone has already said that. Just try to understand, closing the forum isn't a good solution.
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2008, 22:37 » |
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The way I see it is... Well if there's so many people opposing to LTS being closed, then don't close it  we all want it here for the sake of our friends and expressing ourselves, whether during high activity or not. It's always here for us when we need it so please let it be that way <3  (sorry for being err...more loud than usual..have had alcohol ^_^;)
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2008, 02:13 » |
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That reply from vanguard just shows one thing, that everybody else seems far more grown up and doesnt resort to cheap insults for absolutely NO REASON. You personal issues with another member are not welcome here. Most people are trying to help Serge through what seems like a bad time and you use it as an excuse to get a cheap insult in, shows how pathetic the small minded can be. Anyway. Back to the subject at hand. Serge. you have created not just a great forum here, but a awesome community too. THe feeling against closing the forum temporarily just goes to show how much we do care. we are against closing the forum not against you and we respect you thinking of ideas to try and make the comminity better, just the closing one we think won't help. I think the quietness is just an unfortunate set of things happening in peoples lives that happened at same time, meaning people couldnt be as active as they like to be. Me and my stressful job and illness, roger trying to find a new job, Rachel settling in at university and countless things with other people here. The point that was originally made is that Serge thought people needed a break, but the last day or two has seen the return of a few people who did take time out. So maybe the couple days of no posts was our break but with the forum being up for anyone who needed it. Tsk Tsk, Rach being loud  GLad i didnt see this when I came hom yesderday as I had quite a bit of alchohol and i problebly would of been loud too, and not string a sentance together to boot lol.
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