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« on: July 14, 2008, 05:29 »

I should admit my small inspiration and energy to draw, could not find a justification. maybe are my skills, my technique and style are not surprising or  correct (i am not a sketcher)... but occasionally can sen you a  nice lisa-pic ...

I try to fly and find an answer! How could despite the distance  establish a link with you?

my fustraciones and your cries are the material of my wings, and the sweet fantasy is our sky ... free of selfishness and incomprehension ...

ok! is time of take my old pencil again!  Lisa
Cherry Blossom!!!

see ya!

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 16:55 »

Even for sketches your style is aparant and I have enjoyed your work thus far.

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 18:32 »

hey! ... thanks... I try draw more...

look!  Smile (i am working in the color version of "gift"... please patience)  Wink




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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2008, 19:15 »

Looking good so far.  Lisa
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 19:22 »

These sketches are amazing! Nicely done, Gustavo Smile And the coloured version is looking good too! Big Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2008, 22:39 »

Thanks Tiago ^v^'' !
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2008, 22:48 »

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Nice work, but...
More canonic style! I vote for Lisa that does look like Lisa in the show Smile
Say yes to short spikes! Say no to anime, manga and other stuff like that Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2008, 23:32 »

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Say yes to letting artists have the freedom to explore their own creative ideas...
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2008, 23:35 »

G.H.
I expected such comment, but...
Let's admit, for years Gustavo's drawing style kept deviating the more and more away from the original, canonic style. I'm all for original pictures, especially Lisa ones, but all I want is to see Lisa that does look like Lisa from the show, otherwise it's hard for me to convince myself that I see Lisa, not some sort of random Anime character...
Sorry, but that's how I see things. Look at Vicky's pictures and you'll understand me.

Gustavo, no offense intended! I remember one picture you posted not long ago, with the same Lisa pic drawn in your own and more canonic formats. What you draw now, is very far even for that "original" version on that pic, which means that you keep flying away and away from your own old drawing style. I miss it...
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2008, 23:41 »

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Well, as I said in another thread (it was half-joking so I think the point was missed), draw your own Lisas. Serge, I've seen your art, it's nothing to be ashamed of. If you want to see Lisa drawn canonically, you don't have to look much further than your own hands, a pencil, and a piece of paper. When I was as Lisa-obsessed as you are, I drew my own Lisas, and still did even after I found this forum. It was a kind of "therapy", if you will. Maybe Gustavo sees Lisa in a different way than you do - perhaps he sees her as a different entity. Certainly his anime-ish style gives Lisa an entirely different feeling. You, on the other hand, see Lisa every way she is on the show - that's fine - but that's something you want.

The point I'm trying to make here is this: There's nothing wrong with wanting to see Lisa drawn the way Matt Groening draws her. But don't pressure other artists to want to the same thing. Either do it yourself, or commission them to do one for you.

By the way Gustavo, I think your last few sketches are wonderful - even though I really dislike anime, your style of drawing Lisa has always captivated me. You give her a twist that makes the cuteness some see in her turn into beauty.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2008, 23:58 »

I agree with G.H. on that important point. If it wasn't for artistic freedom we wouldn't have some of the fantastic works we have here. And the Lourve wouldn't be nearly as incredible.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 00:16 »

oh.... -_- "this is a long story"...
well.. (again)....Serge please understand me.. I can't draw with the "rules" or in a canonic style.... Sad  ... It is impossible to my hand... thanks by your sincerity... but if do you like look canonical lisas please search in topics of real artists... remember This is a long history my friend...

I can't draw by this motive...  and I don't need more discussions in my topics!  Sad GH and Serge.. please peace!..  please only enjoy...
well I try draw somes canonical lisas Mr Serge... please patience... 
George... thanks by your words.. thanks a lot.. 



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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 01:28 »

back!


Ok this is a canonical Lisa... in reality is a "mirror"... and maybe is a sad picture...

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 01:36 »

I agree with Gustavo... Let's not turn this topic into a discussion x_x

About this last pic, it's very sentimental... She looks sad... I wanna give her a hug!
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 01:41 »

*sigh*
Gustavo, I have no idea why you pictured her like that, if that's your best picture then I'm Chinese Sad
I won't raise this question again, I see it's no use. You either can't, or don't want draw in the canonical style anymore, and that's your right to do.
Sorry for raising this ruckus.
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 02:09 »

I don't know why someone should draw "canonical" Lisas - it's entirely up to the artist how to portray a character. Maybe except from some very old sketches, Gustavo never drew canonical Lisas - and regardless how old a Gustavo pic is, you will always recognize his style immediately. I admit that his style developed into a more anime-ish one, but I think you can still recognize immediately that it's a Simpsons character - and if it's only the yellow skin and the overbite. Wink

For us, who enjoy the pics that are created by the artists, it shouldn't matter how they look, and we simply don't have the right to complain about the lack of certain things and stuff like that. Of course it's up to us to like a pic or not, and I think we should be also allowed to say "sorry, not really my cup of tea". But we should appreciate the effort, or at least keep our mouth shut (as Lisa would like to say "It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Wink ).

Well, that said, let me tell you that I really like the three pics you posted, Gustavo. Smile The second one is the most impressive one for me - and it makes me really wanting to hug her right now. I wonder what saddens her so much?
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 02:13 »

well Serge.. me no like draw in a canonical style.. I can draw a normal lisa but it is bored and is only is a copy of the style of matt greoning... "only a copy" is the exact word...  and me no like this... maybe other artists like copy the rules and  skills of  others artists.. but remembers this : I am only a lisalover  Wink and Lisa to me is a combination of two parts: the first in the Lisa of the TV show and the second part is a bit of my own soul... and my pics only a mirror..  Love

but i promise draw a canonical lisa to you sometimes  ok? Smile (I try.. but is hard .. I have "short fingers")...  

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 02:23 »

I wonder what saddens her so much?

Lisa says: Psssst  Gustavo... maybe Andreas have bad memory...  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 20:39 »

ok start again   Smile
 I promise draw more lisapics in the future  Lisa and sorry by my words in the past..  Tongue

(sorry by the bad quality)  Gigi



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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 22:41 »

I wanted not to post about this discussion into this topic anymore, but Andreas has raised a good question...
I agree that we should never tell artists what they should draw and what not. But Gustavo and me are good friends, for years we were sharing similar views on our favorite character, and I enjoyed his pictures as much as this can be possible. Like you said, his style keeps developing, while my views don't change and I don't feel I like his recent pictures as I did before. What can I do in this situation? Only ask him to not to deviate too much, risking to insult him... I know it's not right but I don't see what else can I do instead of keeping my mouth shut and possible lose him forever as one of my favorite Simpsons artists.

And Gustavo, don't you like Lisa on this last pic Smile Lisa still has some animeish features here, but doesn't it look like much better compromise between the show canons and your own fantasy? I'm not pushing anyone, I'm also sorry for my words I said before (pretty harsh ones)... I don't want to push you to draw what I like. I want you to like what you draw, and especially what you drawn in the past.

Thanks for understanding me Smile
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 23:29 »

@Serge.

no worries my friend..  I need says "thanks" by your sincerity Smile ...and by our friendship  ... sorry by my words yasterday ...
 

Lisa
Lisa: ok.. Gustavo start again!  Tongue


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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 03:48 »

This is other small pic  (35 minutes) 

*awwie.... is time of sleep*    _o_  Zzzz..
lisa says: "goodnight"

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 20:39 »

Loving all of your pictures in this thread...... I would like to apologise for not commenting before. I love both the styles you have done in his thread. I love them both in completely different ways for different reasons, thats why I find your non-canon style refreshing.

Your lastpic though is extremely cute on so many levels..... dont think its your best drawing wise, but best for the feel and the situation of the drawing....

I hope you can continue to draw in both styles Smile

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 23:05 »

These last two pictures are great, as always Tongue
But I like the second one more.

Keep up the good work Smile
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2008, 03:30 »

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Aw, cute pic Smile but why her wings, at least the left one, appear to be in front of her hand?
If I imagine wings' anatomy correct, they should be almost unable to bend forward, like we are unable to bend our elbows backward. Aside from that, sweet one, makes me go "aww", also sleepy Big Grin
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2008, 00:36 »

I dont know Dag.... I am sure i seen pictures of birds (and bats too) who fold thier wings forward. Doesnt look wrong to me personally..

...than again I am the man who drew Lisa's hand in an impossible position rofl.... so I may be totally wrong Embarrassed Big Grin

I agree with you Serge...... I have looked at the picture before bed and it gave me a sort of warm peaceful feeling Smile

*On a side not I would like to apologise for some of the mistakes in my posts tonight, spelling and layout. I am in the bedroom using the TV as screen and my Mouse and Kayboard batteries are running low so the mouse is skipping across screen and missing out clicks when I edit and they keyboard is missing out keystrokes..... also due to room layout the reciever is at limit of this mouse and keyboard so makes it worse. I hate wireless KB + mice, only using it due to the "remote control" nature of using the TV. Other PCs/macs are wired.

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2008, 05:12 »

hey thanks a lot... Smile but I need a lot  of practice to improve my skills with my pictures... in the cononical style I am a complete novice  Tongue

oh God...  I am tired ...are the 12:10 AM in my side of the world and need sleep....

-_- '' ok ...!

^^'' bye bye!

_o_'' Zzzzzz      *gustavo is sleeping*

Lisa: pssssssst Wink goodnight...
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2008, 00:59 »

In a lot of ways, Like Dagdamor I would really like to see you (Gustavo) draw a show style Lisa. I'm not bored of your style drawings and, dont think I ever want you to stop drawing in your style. But it would be interesting, as a technical excersice. Wink
Drawing the original Groening style would take longer, but you could reward yourself with a Gustavo background Big Grin
Then again, I cant talk... I havent drawn Simpsons in ages...  Embarrassed... This inspiration cube isnt working!


Anyway, the new pictures are nice, and although it would seem a step backwards... doesnt mean it isnt a step in the right direction. Wink Keep it up!
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2008, 14:34 »

I always loved those pics like the last ones. They're really great.
Casper's jedi mind tricks really annoy me, he stole my words again.
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2008, 17:27 »

lisa is dancing in my job...

Lisa says: thanks a lot casper and malefix... sadly Gustavo ...(yeah this bored guy in the computer's lab) need take a "break" with my pictures... (by the Futurama vs Simpson competition)...  but is only a moment.... ohhh is time of return to home.... see ya! (psssst and thanks by your words)  Smile

*Lisa turn off the laptop....

Gustavo: you are posting a reply in LTS?
dancer Lisa: me? no no... you are paranoic Gustav...
Gustavo: -_-'' oh ok ok

bye bye   Tongue
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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2008, 04:38 »

anyway... in the night again...

Evening
Richard Aldington (England, 1892-1962)


The chimneys, rank on rank,
Cut the clear sky;
The moon
With a rag of gauze about her loins
Poses among them, an awkward Venus—

And here am I looking wantonly at her
Over the kitchen sink.

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anyway... in the night again.... is 30 minutes is midnight and the next week... in this moment my room is very dark, alone with the laptop... alone? ... no no.. I am with "her" .. with my shy lover... we are timid lovers... "her" is my bed with me in this moment.. sleeping in peace between my cries and our hope...  in this moment the peace in my room is complete... is stranger but I can't undertand my feelings

"...I need to sleep and be alone ... with Lisa".....

anyway.... goodnight... and sorry by the bad quality of my lisas... as always....

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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2008, 20:07 »

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Hah, that one is pretty nice, CCD! Especially her face with such embarrassed expression. I wonder only what is the letter, is it a love one or a kind of communication 'without words'? And I like the view from the first person, it is always looks very personal. as if artist shares with you his own feelings. I mean here it is more implied than in other pictures. Of course I keep in mind that all pictures are what the artist wants to express to others.
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« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2008, 21:52 »

thanks Mr Shadow Nait... ^^
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