The main idea of this thread was born from this one. All we know that Lisa is seriously struggles for the preservation of the environment. And she of course for more environmentally friendly production or each side of human' activity. The plants produces a full range of consumable goods, of course I admit that without it's output the life itself will be not happy at all, but nightmarish only (middle ages again). Still the humans well-being must be coordinated stricly with it's influence on an environment.

So what do you think, would Lisa approve her own occurence on this kind of advertising posters? Though she's not receive any money (I hope ) for it from the brand. Is it permissible for her own lifelooks at all? Those hybrid engines is an achievement of engineering without doubts and it allows to save more fuel and hence to save the nature. But those cars have at least _three_ engines against a single one in classic cars (dual electric motor and usual internal combustion engine) so the material costs will rise combined with a growing complexity of production and hence the increaed load at environment and resources (electricity, materials)

Or wheteher I'm groundlessness worry and, as I think, Lisa herself will look fist through the all merits of a new technology and only after that will take her own decision? Or maybe she'll stay almost indifferent after all those years (more than twenty) of almost ineffective strife?

Well, good to know that Lisa is going to come to my door and kill me.

I believe yes because all three of the vehicles in question are hybrids, or a hybrid model is available. in the ads, the hybrid models are the ones shown, so I bet she would be ok.

But still, they are photoshop jobs I put together for a school assignment, nothing more, nothing less. I think you are reading a bit too much into them.

To tell the truth, I do the same, I read a lot into topics related to the Simpsons. But, I think that this man is reading to much into these photoshops. I threw them together in the school library for an economics assignment, and chose Lisa because I thought that she had the beauty and intelligence to fit these poetic advertisements, and because Jill Wagner was already taken by Mercury. I mean, I didn't really think (or had time to) think if Lisa supported the auto industry or not.

runfromcheney
"I mean, I didn't really think (or had time to) think if Lisa supported the auto industry or not."
But we do! (or I alone? )
Of course I'm not agains you personally and your work, at least it was turned out really good for the period of one hour of Photoshop work.
My claim goes to main idea of those pictures which shows personally to me that Lisa is kinda... gived up and betrayed her principles with that "special photosession" she did for you.

GeorgeHarrison
runfromcheney
"A lot of people on LTS, Yggdrasill or Serge especially, tend to read more into Simpsons-related stuff than is usually intended."
And what are you expected from the people on this very site? I must say more, I'm not so closely take it to heart as would like to do. Just sometimes it's need to discuss such themes like that. Aint this place dedicated for thing like that?

(Kasper - I'll answer a bit later to you, man )

Yggdrasill
I think Lisa already answered your initial question (i.e. could she participate in advertisement or not). In 1F12 "Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy", she said: "I'd be mortified if someone ever made a lousy product with the Simpson name on it." But in the same episode, she agreed to be a "prototype" for a new doll. So I think it depends, depends on the quality in the first place. If the product is decent, if it's something good and useful, I think she could take part in it.

I'm confused with some words above a little. Considering to that words there follows an idea that she uses not to be herself, like we all got assumed to think of her. But the "real" girl unstead, with it's own ugliness like arrogance and reluctance to squander one's gifts into nonsense? Should I throw away my pink glasses finally? Because it's the only right way to go.

I have my point still. She said she wants her name was placed only onto things of a _best_ quality and nothing else. It may cause false opinion that she always chooses the better in quality and costly things that ever exists. Of course she's not against something really qualitative and she always used to be glad all the times when her family became reach suddenly. She likes when there's a lot of money. But I extremely doubt that she is really always aspires to receive all the best. I must say she wants the best things only to her necessary. To make the best doll ever was necessary for her one time. She was inspired and has a lot of suggestions how to make her own doll the better.

And the main point I have - she's not grabby or just the one who consider oneself as the superior person which needs only the best. The example with Maliby Stacey was showed (to me) that she longs only to _do_ things in the best way with her own hands, all her dids. She's avid for a perfect result only, but not for getting as much as it possible.

And only because of it I think she's not really _need_ deep in her heart to have a costly car or to advertise it somehow... (hell, I become even more confused! I'm curious whether I showed my view clear enough)

That is why I believe she wouldn't mind my photoshoot, because she is going to advertise the Lexus line of hybrids.

Well, I do know a lot about cars, and I know that Lexus probably has the greenest product line of any luxury car manufacturer, as they have three hybrid models, and those are the exact models she is advertising.

everything should be 'permissible' to lisa, unless it breaks the laws.
remember that shes not an angel, not a perfect creature. she has right to have her sins, she has right to make mistakes. i see no bad in advertizing stuff. its not drugs, not weapons, not abortions. its just modern cars....promoting cars isnt any bad. its even more harmless actually - if someone wants to buy a car, he will buy a car. an advertizement wont push him to, and wont stop him from. it will only help him to choose the right model. if someone doesnt want to buy a car, the advertizement will be just a nice video clip to him.

Well if you remember the "Old Man and the Lisa episode", she was rather happy to see her face painted on the recycling factory (that is, before she saw Burnsie's scam ). I think that she'd be really happy to give her image for actions, products and ideas she finds worthy of.
I'm quite sure she'll grow up to be at a certain point in her life, a greenpeace activist or just a pacific environmentalist, but still an active role in that field (as Rach said for Jazz too!).

the blood of the society and what brings it to buy, spend, work and everything is for a good part advertisement, even n its many forms: Lisa would surely know and try to acti n that field it, be it using her "lil agitator" to talk some sense in the masses, or appearing in a commercial for a hybrid car, or having a guest appearance in Itchy and Sctratchy like she dreamed to.

Yes, maybe people would still go ahead with doing its choices, but at least she would have tried