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« on: August 05, 2007, 21:04 » |
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Well I'm not sure such a topic is really worth creating, being that The Simpsons is a fictional show and all, but I've always had a few things that I've been able to notice that don't quite make sense... as in, it leaves you thinking "That's not very realistic", or things that you just find hard to believe could really happen. Or it could just be simple animator goofs, as in one frame there's a picture on the wall of Grampa Simpson, and in the next frame it's gone or replaced with a houseplant. One thing for me that I always found a bit hard to believe was the episode "Homer's Barbershop Quartet", obviously a good episode especially for me, since it's based on the rise and fall of The Beatles, but certain things just didn't add up. First of all, a question that I believe Lisa asked, was what happened to all the money that Homer, Barney, Apu and Skinner made? And why aren't they ever noticed anymore? If they were such a phenomenon, you'd think that they would have had more of an impact than just rising to popularity and losing it all in one summer. People would recognize them on the streets, and there personal lives would be covered extensively by paparazzi. Any thoughts/ideas or more mistakes to speculate about are welcome 
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 19:38 » |
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It's an inexhaustible topic  An example that instantly comes to mind: in the "Lisa's Wedding" episode, Maude Flanders appears, alive and kicking. But that's impossible because she died in one of the following episodes. Although some of the goofs can be easily explained as jokes (see the attachment) 
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 18:23 » |
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Another example: in the episode #4F24 ("Lisa The Simpson" -  ), Lisa worries about her intelligence and discovers that every member of the Simpsons family gets dumb eventually (later she discovers that only boys are predisposed to that, i.e. Bart and Homer). But that contradicts completely with another episode, #BABF22 ("HOMR"), where we see that Homer is very smart, only the crayon in his brain makes him so dumb. And another animation goof in the attachment.  It's from the #AABF03 "Lisa Gets An A". Look at Lisa's smile...
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 14:26 » |
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Another one: Flanders house fall down in season eight, all their things except gravestones were destroyed. But then it revealed, that Ned's huge collections of figurines and The Beatles stuff were safe. Well, maybe he began collect figurines later, but Beatles things he collect for many years and unless he stored all it in another more safe place, it should be destroyed by that hurricane too. Also, it was mentioned couple of times that Homer is infertile due to his work on the power plant, but when Maggie got chicken pox last seasons Marge worried that Homer will have it too because it can make him "sterile down there", like she said. Why she worried 
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 00:22 » |
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Take a look at Marge's shoulder. I've never seen things like this before - looks like a wrong line to me, that was removed afterwards (but not completely). 
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 00:51 » |
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Cant get more in a lapse in animation than these two framegrabs. Unnecessary Surgery Land 
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2007, 01:09 » |
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ALMLOL, the second one looks even scary to me. But impressive examples indeed. "I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder!" 
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2007, 02:19 » |
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ALMWow, that's incredible  Someone really screwed up big time on those... and also Serge, the one with Marge's arm looks just weird, like someone didn't erase well enough or something 
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2007, 18:09 » |
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(this one is not by me, but from my Russian forum.) Remember Bart's birth. It wasn't planned, so Homer and Marge had to marry right after school when they discovered that Marge is pregnant. But right now Homer is 39 and Bart is 10, so when Bart was born, Homer was 29 (and Marge was 27)... a bit too old for finishing school!  In the "I Married Marge" episode, the one about Bart's birth, they both don't look like 27/29 either. And another nice example I noticed by occasion today (see attachment, it's from AABF12 "Make Room For Lisa"). Milhouse's left foot overlaps the door 
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 01:47 » |
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DagdamorAh yes, ages and birth dates... a few debatable topics here, including most notably Lisa's birthday. According to the episode "My Sister, My Sitter" Bart states that he is 2 years and 38 days older than Lisa. This would put her birthday at May 9th... but in some episodes it's stated as September 28th! And others still in October... I guess we'll never know when Lisa was really born. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 21:16 » |
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And another nice example I noticed by occasion today (see attachment, it's from AABF12 "Make Room For Lisa"). Milhouse's left foot overlaps the door  Wow... how could you notice that? O_o i had to look at the picture couple times and even then, without reading your description, i couldn't get it. Do you play lot's of "Where's Waldo"s?
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2007, 17:49 » |
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Cant get more in a lapse in animation than these two framegrabs. Unnecessary Surgery Land  ALM, those are scary! I dont remember where the second pic comes from? Which episode is that`?
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 18:00 » |
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That moment is from Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore. But how in the world did you find that one, Gary? It looks like that for only 1 frame.  Same goes for you, Dag  We must have some diehard Where's Waldo finders here on the board. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 18:41 » |
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That moment is from Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore. But how in the world did you find that one, Gary?
By accident actually. I was just messing with making frames and when I quickly saw Lisa's hand disappear I thought WTF and sent a framegrab to Nick. And never forgotten about it since.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2007, 18:44 » |
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Even simpler here - one member has posted this screenshot in the "Guess the episode" topic on my forum. I couldn't guess the episode, but the animation goof has caught my eye. Glad you liked it though. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2007, 01:40 » |
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Someone really should've gotten fired for this one.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 15:51 » |
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ALMHmm... I don't see anything wrong on this scene. Maybe the face of the guy nearby Lisa, but we've seen even uglier faces in the early seasons. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2007, 16:07 » |
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DagdamorCan't be certain either, but look at the collar, I think the person next to Lisa is actually behind her. It appears Bart lost his head here. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2007, 16:12 » |
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Kasper's right. They chopped off Bart's head...
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2007, 16:35 » |
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Oh crap!!! You're right, it's the person sitting behind Bart!  This is extremely disturbing, I never saw anything like that. Number one in the whole thread so far. Even worse than handless Lisa... ugh... * Dagdamor won't forget this moment from now on
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2007, 18:04 » |
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Oh crap!!! You're right, it's the person sitting behind Bart!  This is extremely disturbing, I never saw anything like that. Number one in the whole thread so far. Even worse than handless Lisa... ugh... * Dagdamor won't forget this moment from now on Oh I know, I didnt see it right away... but now... ewww!
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2007, 21:28 » |
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I noticed that before but I didnt think it was Bart, I thought they miss-connected the head from the guy behind onto the body. But should have realised he then would have very small hands  Very strange, and scary. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2007, 23:49 » |
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ALM I didn't notice it either, but after reading the replies and looking at it again, I burst out laughing... thanks for posting. Very disturbing but hilarious.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2007, 22:40 » |
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Spotted 2 animation goofs in the same scene while watching 'Homer Loves Flanders' (1F14) [S05E16] last night, the goof i spotted is quite noticable when playing, more noticable than on these static screenshots. I spotted the 2nd goof while composing the screenshots. Both involve the arms. Her arm seems to literally pop off when moving. The other arm's movement of the necklace (and the position of the necklace itself) also seems very off. Heres a montage of 4 shots. http://www.ejnmedia.co.uk/simpsons/lisaarms.jpgThe scene happens relitively close to the beginning after Homer hears Ned win the "Pigskin Classic" tickets on the radio at the power plant, and cuts back to the simpsons home. Lisa is saying about the rivalry between Shelbyville and Springfield. The scene is just before the Marge hallucinations after driking the spiked water. Oh and the 1st shot top left is cute 
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2007, 23:02 » |
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Poor Lisa. It looks like her arm is dislocated. And yeah, she looks cute in the first pic. 
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2007, 10:45 » |
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Looks really weird  Sometimes come across these goofs, I usually tend to spot colour or background differences though,...maybe the animators are just in a big rush 
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2007, 20:54 » |
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Empethree looks weird, but maybe it was half-intentional. on the first and the last moments, her right arm looks very much the same. maybe it was the same drawing cell, they just tried to re-use it for the same scene, but shifted a bit....anyway, just a thought. nice example.
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OK came across this, seems like something stange was happening at animation HQ this drawing session..... this is from "Some Enchanted Evening... lisa has too many lashes and the picture just seems strange.
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2007, 23:32 » |
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I agree, she's looking quite weird here  she eve nhas less hair spikes and her head is smaller than usual... oh well, i guess we can forgive this to the animators back then 
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2007, 11:54 » |
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EmpethreeNot only she has weird amount of eyelashes/spikes, but also look where her tongue is growing from  A typical Season 1 screenshot... but heck, she still looks adorable! It's hopeless... 
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2007, 13:28 » |
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Another moment I've noticed today, from the famous "Barting Over" episode. For some reason the animators have painted half of Homer's shirt blue 
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While staring at the pic I've posted in another thread I noticed something. Apparently Homer and Marge already had a picture of Lisa being 8 and Maggie who hasn't even been born in that scene. 
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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2007, 21:13 » |
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SuusjeLOL, very interesting... I hadn't noticed that, you're very observant  Also, Homer has hair in that scene... in the episode "And Maggie Makes Three" wasn't he shown tearing out the rest of his hair after he found out that Marge was pregnant with Lisa? Homer's hair is something that you could discuss endlessly... there are many flashbacks where he does have hair, others where he doesn't... there's too many "goofs" in that area to count 
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