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« on: June 09, 2007, 12:26 »

I think it would be interesting if all members would make a piece of art together, to make kind of patch-work quilt or something like it, to put all our feeling to Simpsons in one picture. It shouldn't be as "one draws Lisa's eye, another - Lisa's eyelash", but something to put soul in it. I thought about something like a painted Round Robin (unfortunately, I suck in english writing, so I can't take part in written RRs), where, for example, someone choose the picture's theme and then one member draws a character, then passes pic to other, and other member draws another character to fit the theme at the same canvas and so on. But such thing needs very big canvas to fit all members' part, so it's kinda difficult technically Sad And of course all of us have different styles and ways to draw, but it'll be great to have something with a part of every member.

Is anyone interested in doing something collective and have any ideas, how we could do it?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2007, 13:12 »

That, is a great idea. Smile

I had the thought a while ago (on a different forum) of all the members drawing themselves onto a simgle picture, which could be used as a banner or something to identify the forum people.
However, this idea is probably better. Big Grin Each person could draw a character around the scene presented. It wont look perfect, they'll be loads of perspective issues, hight problems, etc etc... But I dont care really, would be a great collaboration of efforts. Smile

How, is another matter. Maybe using a program such as OpenCanvas which is very easy to use PC tablets for the people who have them, using the layers to create your own peice without disturbing the others.
For people without PC tablets, (or like me who isnt good at using them), suppose some members could help taking a seperate picture, and adding to the main picture in the right place. I'm more than willing to help... but I really dont have the equipment or talent I used to. Practice, and the lack of it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2007, 15:30 »

Using OpenCanvas seems to be a good idea, and it actually allows you to draw on a canvas over the internet at the same time. Now while that might be complicated with more than two participients, you could always attach the OC file to your posting for the next one to grab it and add his part later.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 15:38 »

Yes, OC is the only way to go, imo... although there are alternatives known as PaintBBS, Oekakis and such. I think it could be even something that gets installed in the LTS server like a chatroom.

The problem might be that in OC you can have a maximum of 4 users (the hoster included) and it could suffer from lags, router configurations, pc problems...
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 16:02 »

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Guys, we all from different countries and have different time to draw and different bandwidth, so I never meant drawing at the same time over the internet - it's just will be so hard to gather members, so offline-drawing is better, as I think.
And also, there are members drawing with pencil on paper, to whom it'll be hard to draw with mouse or tablet.  I think every graphic editor with layers could be used (both to tablet art and scanned art parts)... The main question is - how big canvas should be to fit many different characters and will it be easy to look at...
Also, what to do with the background - should it be added by one of members after characters are finished or what? And could we draw different characters, or everybody want to draw only Lisa?  Eek Although many Lisas are great, too Big Grin

How about one testing attempt of 3-4 members? Is there any volunteers to begin? Excellent ability to draw not so important and how long would each member draw neither.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 16:31 »

hey, even in my down time I would be willing to do that.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 18:56 »

Hmm, this sounds like a fun idea... unforuntately some of us don't draw or draw hardly at all and are pretty uncomfortable with our styles... Plus, as has been pointed out, some of us use pencil and paper, others use programs on the computer. I don't know if I'd be able to participate in this, if it did take off... sorry Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2007, 13:32 »

It is possible, using only pencil, paper, printer and scanner back in the day me and Ekko made quite a few collaborated pictures. Probably the most significant ones where 'Matias' and 'Rival'.
Matias: Sketch - Fineline - Colour
Rival: Sketch - Fineline - Colour

He drew them both, and I printed them, added a background (since he wasnt very good at them), scanned and coloured it. (EDIT: With persmission, maybe I should post some of his later pictures that never made it to SR in a thread here?)
Pretty long winded but it is one possiblility. Could do the same but just add characters around like the backgrounds where added. The cons of this is, the picture would need colouring over again if parts where already coloured, since the printing/scanning would alter the colours. So maybe its best keeping it in sketch form and save colouring till last. Smile
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 14:38 »

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Wow, great work, so accurate, full with details and nicely coloured! I like the "Rival" especially Smile Yes, I think you're right about colouring - picture will be more unite with the same colouring for all parts. Please post more collaborate pics in your thread, it will be very interesting to see.

I've deleted post with first pic, 'cause I think beginner of the RR should have managerial abilities to choose great theme, make conditions and draw first one well. So, I suppose SimpReal should close this thread now till someone on LTS would be ready to open something real. Sorry for disturbing Smile
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 14:51 »

What a nice idea!   I'd be happy to take part but I don't think I'm going to have the time until a couple of weeks from now.   If people are OK to wait that long, then I'm in, if not, don't worry!
I thought your pic and theme were OK Brakusaetsya, why not start with them?   We can always try other themes later.   
Regarding adding pencil sketches/background, there shouldn't be a problem with a bit of photoshop trickery.   Even if the original artist doesn't have photoshop, I'm sure that others on here (myself included) would be happy to edit their contribution into the final pic.   
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 17:57 »

Okay. Then I'll post once again the same pic, but without colours, as Casper said; if anyone will be interested, please post here, that you'll continue and date, when you plan to finish, then enlarge canvas in graphic editor and draw Simpson character in some masquerade costume near mine Smile Choose character and costume freely.

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2007, 18:03 »

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please re-upload image "masquerade_fever.jpg" it's broken.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2007, 18:11 »

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I reuploaded, but first time I downloaded it well Eek
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2007, 22:09 »

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Sorry i didn't understand at first. this is a terrific idea, very nice, and you started things off in a very nice way!  Smile I like the idea and theme, and i don't think there's need to create a new thread for this. Well, if you think it's necessary i'll do it anyway! Big Grin As for me continuing and adding, i can't be sure for now, i'll know better around tomorrow when i will know my schedule.

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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2007, 19:42 »

I'd like to partake if I may. ^^
So if I understand this correctly...
We copy the image you uploaded into a program, draw ourselves or our character, then enlarge the canvas for others to keep on drawing...? I think it sounds like a good idea!
It could be like, the LTS collage.
Would it be okay if I can go next? Smile
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2007, 15:13 »

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I like your idea! I've never seen this anywhere before (a sequential, offline drawing session, if I understood you right), and I think the idea is very good. I will try to participate, too, though I'm not good in drawing original characters. Smile

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I think you can, this topic is for everyone, no need to ask. Smile
It should be even easier to "synchronize" stuff with drawing sessions than with writing ones, because even if you drew another part for the picture, and someone else has posted his improved version before you, you can just paste your addition (assuming you have used a separate layer for it) into the improved version, and you're there. Smile
Will wait for your contribution!
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 15:39 »

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Yay! First participant! I'll be so happy to see your art!

So, it should be a simpsonic character (from the show, or maybe simpsonic you), he (or she) should be in masquerade costume you choose and picture should be non-coloured Smile I'll be waiting for your part! *jumps*
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2007, 16:11 »

Cool, sounds good to me. Big Grin
I've already got the sketch all done and I just need to ink it and add colors.
Shouldn't be much longer, maybe tomorrow morning if I get myself together. ^^
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2007, 16:13 »

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I just need to ink it and add colors
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picture should be non-coloured

I guess this should be sorted out before SH has posted the improved version. Smile
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2007, 16:15 »

D'oh! >.<
Okay non-colored... I can do that. ^^
It should take me no longer than 20 minutes then.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2007, 16:33 »

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Maybe later we could change that rule, but now, as Casper said, for members who printing pics, drawing and then scanning colours would be distorted, and also pic may look very strange, so in our first trial collaboration art colors would be added after all characters.

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I will try to participate, too, though I'm not good in drawing original characters
Don't worry about that, you can always draw your favourite Lisa, she looks so good on your pics.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2007, 18:30 »

Sounds good, I can't wait to color mine. Smile
I finished my turn. I'm having an off-day with hands, I'm sorry. Sad
But, I hope it stiil looks okay. I tried to draw my hair like it is. Smile

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2007, 18:45 »

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Wow, that's really awesome!!! Eek
Costume is unbelievable. If her dress has black parts now, I wonder, what colour would be part with sceletons! Her mask looks very good, too and I like pierced ear! And pose is so charming!

Thank you very, very much for your contribution, I'm so happy to see this!
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2007, 18:49 »

It's no problem. Smile
I can't wait for others contributions and ther takes on costumes.
I was reading the eariler posts and I could make the background as soon as everyone's all done. Big Grin
Just a thought...
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2007, 23:29 »

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Wow... that's truly amazing Eek Very nicely done, very beautiful.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2007, 08:43 »

Well, I think I've get another character. It's Monty "Phantom of the Opera" Burns Big Grin. But it still a bit scetchy (I can trace it) and with low ammount of detail (I can add it, I hope so)...
(BTW. Can we draw only single character? or Can we add new details to already finished? If not, I don't think that this is nessesary to place all characters right now on the picture. I think that much more convinient would be draw characters separately. And than someone can gather them in one picture. It's a good way to agree with proportions also.)

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2007, 09:20 »

Hehe, those are great Brakusaetsya and Rizzy Smile Cant wait to see this come together!
Sure enough, I'll add a character in a few days or so. But not yet, pretty busy.

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BTW. Can we draw only single character? or Can we add new details to already finished?

I dont see anything wrong with it. After all, this is just a 'practice' peice, no? Would be good to have some experimentation in the mix. Smile

Oh, and great picture by the way. Wink
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2007, 10:37 »

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You can make characters cover each other, crossing - I mean, it's not needed to draw only standing characters one near another, you can make characters look like a crowd at the party. Also you can try to make your personage interact to others somehow... It'll be good if we could make finished pic look like a party, not only row of characters. And you can add details too, I think.

Monty is funny, it'll be good to see him traced Smile
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2007, 16:06 »

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Nice addition! Burns look on-model, at least his visible parts. Nice idea with the mask, too.
Of course your sketch should be added to the collaboration pic to see the result... Smile
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2007, 16:20 »

Excellent idea, brakusaetsya! I think I will try to draw something when I can, if that's alright.
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2007, 16:34 »

Okay I've just had a look through the whole thread (after not having much time to go in detail previously)
So far this is a awesome idea Big Grin I like it, and the contributing sketches are looking great too Big Grin

I have a little more time on my hands now really so I would like to start mine now...still not exactly sure what to draw yet..and my inking skills are a little naff  Confused but I will try my best as I didn't get a chance to participate in the Competition earlier Big Grin

I will start now and hopefully finish before I go back to school to start A2 on Monday (Oh the horror x_x)

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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2007, 19:28 »

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...although there are alternatives known as PaintBBS, Oekakis and such. I think it could be even something that gets installed in the LTS server like a chatroom.

That's not a bad idea, actually.
I use my friends(and my own) OekakiBBS frequently and it's easy to use and it's fun for any artist to draw and chat.
The Oekaki's main page is customizeable so you could fix it to accomodate LTS.
I would be a happy girl if we could see a special LTS oekaki room. ^^
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2007, 19:54 »

And while we haven't some online drawing room, guys, please, don't be shy to add characters you've drawn in offline to our party Wink
Black_raven and Endymion were going to add their parts, but something prevented them from doing this. I hope as it summer now, someone will be able to contribute Wink
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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2007, 19:56 »

I would contribute again, because I had fun with drawing my part. But, I'm guessing it's only one turn per person, right?  Confused
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