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« on: May 03, 2007, 16:40 »

Let's imagine that Lisa is a real person. What kind of job she might have when she grow up?
1)She can't become president because of her relatives and absence of money.
2)She doesn't want to be a simple homemaker.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 16:56 »

I personally think that she might consider a career in teaching or possibly in Music. The music thing might be a bit obvious, but the teaching might be something that she would do good at.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 18:29 »

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1)She can't become president because of her relatives and absence of money

And Homer doesnt know any Supreme Court Justices.


I think she would be a traveling jazz player ala BGM. Touring the US jazz clubs and such.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 20:35 »

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That's interesting thread! She is a person who's looking for result but not the pleasure during business. She has abilities to master so many occupations that i'm going into black envy. Big Grin  She can become proficient with equal success as humanities so and technical specialties. Though it's hard to imagine her being a programmer or engineer, as well as her true interests lays in humanitarian area. She will be with no doubt succesful in any field. But there's only her desire which leads her.
So when you say:
"1)She can't become president because of her relatives and absence of money."
it souds really strange to me. It's not important in what conditions she are now. When i'm looking in her future i see only countless possibilities for her to force one's way in life. But a reservation: she always must have someone who will inject her with force, not allowing to fall down into the commonness, to became a housewife. Now it's Marge, but she can't be always with her... So Lisa must find some person who will do. Maybe a man like Hugh. Or maybe it will be a participant of some movement which member will be and Lisa. And she will be elected as a candidate from them. There's only one thing to go - to make enough public resonanse to fight the way to the hearts of people. Whether it will be an ecological organization or some more traditional party i don't know. I only know the politics will be always interesting to Lisa.

But if the things really turns bad she always can find herself as a manager in book store or librarian. With her knowledge and thirst for it it's never be too difficult for her to come into that professions.

Unfortunately i can't see her as a musician in future. This sense is caused by some hints in her character, her usual daily routine and her inclinations. I think her passion for jazz will come to the background in comparison with other occupations. But she will continue her music exercises. And maybe even will be tryin' to play in bands. Just she simply does not live for a music, whilst the kids for it came to much more profound study of a subject in her age (or so), giving more than a hour per day for rehearsals.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 20:51 »

I think, Lisa may become scientist or journalist, because on these jobs she can serve people, tell them truth. Remember, she learned ecology at college, I think it's right for her.

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2)She doesn't want to be a simple homemaker.
She doesn't want now, but maybe she will become one. I hope she will not, but it's possible.
And like Yggdrasill I don't think she will be professional musician, it's not a good job for her.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 23:40 »

She doesn't want now, but maybe she will become one. I hope she will not, but it's possible.

That is the last thing I want to see her become Sad It's nothing to be ashamed of, but for someone like her, it's a sad rut to have fallen into. I think that teacher, journalist, and musician are all probable outcomes. I would say musician probably the most, just because it is something she is very passionate about. If you are passionate about something, you should stick to that, make it work for you - if you are doing something you enjoy, then life is good. And I think she enjoys her music Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 00:05 »

I think it's hard to decide which speciality Lisa will choose in the future basing only on her character... her character hints us that she might become an animal doctor (she likes animals), a teacher (she likes to study), a musician (likes music). But for some reason I don't really see her in such a role in the future - I partially agree with Bra here... all these professions are "for people", I don't know how to call that, not a public service of course, but working for the others. And Lisa is not like that. She's very self-sufficient, independent, and constantly dealing with different people at work can make her very unhappy. She could be a great scientist, researcher, programmer, naturalist... ecologist also sounds fine to me. Wink

Being a president is absolutely not for her. Even being a housewife is better than that. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 00:13 »

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I had not even though about it, veterinarian would be a very good choice for her as well - in fact, in the episode "Realty Bites" she actually did role-play a veterinarian while her and Bart were trying to help Marge learn her terms.

I would say that Lisa would enjoy working for the people or with them, it wouldn't really matter. In a sense, every profession works "for" someone.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 02:47 »

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She's very self-sufficient, independent, and constantly dealing with different people at work can make her very unhappy.

That's it!

That's why I think she may become a journalist or scientist: these careers include researching, solving problems, finding an answer. She has great ambitions, and with such job she will get her Nobel Prize one day. She may become a teacher, but certainly not in stupid public school full of brats. In such place she will be bored and turn into person like Edna Krabappel. But position of teacher or principal at private school for gifted children or professor at college should be right for her.

She needs to enjoy both process and result of her actions, she needs some great idealistic path to follow, that's why she wouldn't be a musician, nurse, librarian, programmer or so. But for politics she is too idealistic Tongue

And of course it's very hard to forecast future of 8-years old girl. She could change very much when she become a teenager. And if something unexpected happens: if Homer will die or Lisa will become pregnant early, like Marge, it would have a great influence on her career choices.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 04:56 »

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Pardon me, but musicians enjoy the process and result of their actions... o_0 And some of the music they can write can stand for what they believe... *cough* Lennon *cough*
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 05:33 »

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I understand you feelings, but I can't say it's a tangible result. Of course, music may be very inspiring and have a great influence on people, but it's not a way to change the world directly. Not so many people understand Lisa and her music, and I think efficiency of her actions will be higher in other fields. So, I think music should be just a hobby for her.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 06:04 »

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You're right... it can influence people, but in it's own can't do much Sad It's too bad then if that becomes a hobby for her, music can be a wonderful thing to get in to but doesn't amount to much as just an occasional hobby.

Feeling very defeated...
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 06:19 »

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*hugs*

Hey, don't worry, remember that moment from "Separate vocations": "I'm going to be a famous jazz musician.  I've got it all figured out.  I'll be unappreciated in my own country, but my gutsy blues stylings will electrify the French.  I'll avoid the horrors of drug abuse, but I do plan to have several torrid love affairs, and I may or may not die young.  I haven't decided."

She's so sweet, isn't she? Smile

It was just my humble opinion about music. I'll be glad to see if Lisa will be happy as professional musician. But after "Jazzy and the Pussycats" and that episode, when she was told, that her fingers are too short, I'm afraid to see her music career, afraid to see her unhappy. So, I can't imagine her in this role, these are only mine personal thoughts, and I am not Lisa (unfortunately Tongue).
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 15:05 »

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Actually, when musicians think that they may not have the "right" kind of body setup to play their instrument, they are wrong Tongue Short of being crippled, nothing should stop you from playing saxophone or guitar or whatever you choose. Whoever told Lisa that her fingers were too short obviously doesn't know this... I don't think a musical career would be disappointing to her. I don't really think anything she chooses would be, actually, as a vet she'd enjoy helping animals, as a journalist she'd enjoy writing and researching interesting stories, and as a teacher she'd enjoy educating children Smile

And also, I know this is your opinion, everyone's entitled to one. Personally I think this thread is more of a "What would you like to see Lisa doing when she grows up?" kind of a thread, and I think it's no surprise that I'd want her to follow my path Tongue However, the possibilities are endless Smile
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 20:11 »

I would love Lisa to be a jazz player, it would be so awsome. She would be following in the foot steps of Murphy Hibbert, her idol. So her being a traveling jazz player would be very symbolic.


And the guy that said her fingers were too stubby can go f*ck himself.
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 22:17 »

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When you're saying she can't be a President you're definetely overlook that Lisa can change in the future. To have much more realistic outlooks on life than she have in eight years. But not losing her true essence - the responsiveness, thirst of validity and the ardency of character, the very flame of hers that continues to induce her to new achievements and openings. And from these positions it is possible to her to make that fundamental decisions, from which she waved away with disgust in childhood. Whether to see i do not see her in the future in a role of "example" for people. As the clever person she all the same begins to undertake some actions for improvement of own life, i think. There's nothing bad in such egoism. And simply to be a "beacon"... i don't know. Of course it sounds beautifully but i do not wish such fate for her. Just in that case it becomes really hard in life for her.

"Being a president is absolutely not for her."
Why? She has ambitions and some thrist for people's approval to become such person. When someone talks that politics is really dirt for her, that it can hurts her badly, then again they forgot that she can be almost different than she used to be now. She will be a mature woman that time (probably older than 40). Much more expirienced with life that any of us on this forum. And i see there's nothing crap she can't rake away. What for to her it? I believe it will be a pure desire to make life better, not eager for authority.

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"or Lisa will become pregnant early"
That's impossible! Smile I don't think sex will play too much role in her life in the future. Definetely much less than for her parents. But one thing has confused me a little. In "Future Drama" when she dated with Milchause he almost have achieve her reciprocity. And if Bart has not interfered she could spoil her life (or whether up to such irreversible degree?). So she shows piable enough character and this looks really bad for me. Where all her force of character has gone?
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 22:45 »

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I just don't want Lisa to be a president, I prefer more calm future for her Smile I'm not saying she couldn't.

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That's impossible!
Nothing is impossible. Yes, she is not that kind of girl, but out life is full of surprises. Maybe she would marry directly after leaving school, despite all her present words, who knows Smile I just wanted to say, that every little incident with her when she is growing up may change her very-very much, so it's really hard to forecast. Marge also was a sweet little girl and activist.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2007, 22:47 »

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And the guy that said her fingers were too stubby can go f*ck himself.
*covers Lisa's ears* Dan, please stop swearing! Gigi

I partially agree though; that reason looked rather stupid to me. First, Lisa already plays damn well, even with her current, "stubby" fingers. Second, look at Marge's fingers - they are perfectly normal, and most probably, Lisa will have the same ones once she grows up a bit. Regular practicing with musical instruments also trains your fingers, making them more thin and agile. I should know that - the only advantage I took from the piano classes (I was taking them for 7 years, but apparently learnt nothing Embarrassed) I'm using for typing/programming now. Tongue

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2007, 22:53 »

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Well, I'm not saying she has no talent or her fingers are bad for her career. Nothing is impossible Smile I've tried to emphasize that Lisa sometimes gives up so easy in music and she will be hurted with every failed concert in her life. And jazz is not so widely popular, so she must be very cool-headed and calm for such job. Maybe she will become such person when she grows up...
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2007, 23:49 »

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Yeah, this is what I was talking about; when you learn to play an instrument at first, it seems like your fingers aren't right for it; which is right, they aren't. But that can be changed if you keep at it, they will develop all the necessary functions that are required to play your instrument.

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As for the pregnancy thing, I don't think it will happen, although as Bra has said, everything is a possibility. Remember, it is predicted that she'll lose her virginity to Milhouse, which could have resulted in an unwanted pregnancy. Although it didn't, it was cutting it pretty damn close.
   Also, @Bra: When did she ever give up very easily in music? I can't remember any such moments.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 15:05 »

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In 18x02, very impressive moment. But it is last season, Lisa is so different from earlier episodes. Also, she said that she quits in that episode with stubby fingers (before she was told that). In singing, she was not sure to participate in "Little starmaker" when she heard Clarissa. And she is jealous for her rivals (Allison and Big Grin Maggie), she is jealous not only in music, but i think to be a succesful musician she must become more self-confident. Of course, self-confidence important in every career, but in show business especially.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2007, 17:08 »

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True, musicians need a lot of self-confidence. I don't really blame her for feeling this way, as with Allison, she played the same instrument as Lisa, but in her eyes, she was "better". As with Clarissa, she sang the same song, but "better".

Honestly, I really can see her becoming anything except president and homemaker.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 15:17 »

I just thought of another job Lisa could have: UN Ambassodor [sp] Lisa would be great in charge of the UN, she seemed to do a rather good job of it in Das Bus.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2007, 19:49 »

I think she could be a gifted teacher too or even lecturer in university. It has been shown mainly in "Yokel Chords" episode as well as in "Blood Feud" when she teaching Maggie. ("No, Maggie.  Not Aztec, Olmec.  [slowly]  Ol-mec." Tongue) She has necessary qualities for that - the thrist for knowledge, persistence on achievement of the purpose, patience to her disciples and a good sense of importance of education for any people. By the way she has a solid experience of piblic performance in school and in more serious occasions. She can make people to focus one's attention at her.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2007, 23:27 »

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That would be a good option for her, as well. Who knows where the road will take her, but education is very possibly in the cards for her Smile
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2007, 14:23 »

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I don't have much against the teacher/lecturer job for Lisa. The only thing I don't like is that they don't earn enough... at least here, in Russia, where teachers are somewhere near unemployed people, payment-wise. It's nice to educate other people, but what will you eat for dinner? And judging on Krabappel or Hoover, the situation isn't much better in USA, too.
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2007, 17:01 »

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Yes, it's true, even in the U.S., teachers are underpaid. And you can bet they let you know about it, too.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2007, 20:24 »

Lisa could be pretty much everything she wants to... it all depends on how she will carry out her life. sure, her childhood dream is becoming a famous jazz star, having torrid love affairs and such ( i don't remember the exact episode where she said that! help!) so i wish that for her, but also, that might e a bit cuel to her in the future, since the world is so much harder in reality than in an 8 year old mind.

President... definitely she could be. She has all what it takes since she's very young, but she'd have to give up on maybe too much things.

Teacher... the most plausible role in my opinion. She values knowledge so much that she would surely like to help others value it too.

As for being a mommy, i'm sure she'd be one, but not too soon to make it put a threat to her professional life. Smile
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