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Dont be shy! Come along and let us know!

Right now she's cheering for me and wishing me good luck with the job and contract possible good developements  

  *cheerleading* : Gimme an M ! Gimme an A! Gimme an R!

ok ok Mat?as....

on Lisa Marie....

 is a very special sensation …   I no have dreams to the future…   to only be happy…  

  I love too much Lisa Marie…  
in the nights it is his perfume….  
  in the complicity of the love that does not exist….  
  in the complicity to be single…  
 it is a creative and destructive force….
  She is  life and death…
   she is not she is Lisa itself .....she  not exist…   but the soul of She yes…  
 reflected in the beauty of the things…  
 it is a so intense love that it has changed to me completely…
   before she was an empty person….   that single it thought about the present….   it felt emptiness to me. it had vices ... now I feel more complete…   with life…      
without more dreams than of being happy… sadly she never will be with me…    I will live nevertheless with her……   in the good things… in the friendship… in the hugs…   in the glances…   in the miracle to be alive…   and with another opportunity…    she is the  principle and the End ….   of my life….    the perfume and aroma of my thoughts…    it is not an egoistic love…    I do not say: I love you Lisa…   only to you and nobody more.   I say: I love you Lisa… and in your sholy soul to everybody…  
in every moment   in each sigh…   in worst of desires… and in most beautiful…   purity of the thoughts…   star sea… infinite secret…   love of a kiss…   with her I am a happy person and complete…   and from time to time it invades the sadness to me of not being able to have its glances… nevertheless all it happens… the wounds heal and I am a little more fort…   lisa, lisa every day more…each day more love...     in the highest purity…   in the dark of hell… there are no limits between the Earth and the sky….   She is everything for me…

AWW!....  (sorry by my english)

What Dag has posted is a better explanation of the way I feel. I understand she doesn't "exist", but that doesn't stop me from wanting her, or loving her. I have always believed this saying: There are two things you cannot help but fall in - Love, and a grave. Here is one of those times where I cannot have helped but fallen in love with this adorable eight-year old girl. And sometimes, like Dag says, she can make me sad, or even angry, but she always is there to encourage me. As I've posted before, when she came into my life, she helped me change some aspects of my life, and now I'm a better man for it. I love no one else in this life; only her. Dag has said "this is a strange kind of love", and it is. But it's also real love, and for now, all I want, all I need, is that.

I can't say I love Lisa either however I can see why so many people do....

I've had obsessions with cartoon characters before, however over time, my obsession eventualy dies down, although I still have an attchment to it, it's no longer something I think about constantly.
So what do I think/feel about Lisa?....

Well, she's deffintly one of my fav characters on the show, and deffintly one of my fav to draw, since she's quite an expressive character, and I feel most people here can also say they can relate to her in one way or another I feel this for my creative side (be it art or music)

This is the reason most of us probably wouldnt admit it to the general public.

Try not to think of her as a person, but as a feeling. Sorta like, laying on the grass on a warm night looking at the stars. I love that feeling, just total peace.
Thats the only way I can think of it really... but thats just for me, other people can explain how they see it

I'm not really obsessed, but am in some form of love with her. To describe it better, I have a lot of sympathy for her, think she is very innocent and cute, and hope only the best for her.

Aw, that's not right.
I'm not putting the fire on anyone for feeling the way they do about her. I'm just stating that I'll probably never feel that way about any cartoon character.

I don't wanna start the new thread for this, cause it concerns only to Lisa fans I think. Especially while the current theme means such reasonings.
The point is in that.

How frequently you need the maintenance of your fans feelings to Lisa?
I mean all: how frequently you think about her; how often recollect her in a daily life, in all this crush and turmoil. Maybe you wear some kind of T-shirt with her bright face? Or maybe you are such lucky beggar, who already have a person anyhow constantly reminding to you itself Her?

As for me I don't have the instant feeling of Lisa somewhere inside myself I always need some "feeding" you know. I mean to see the good pictures with her drawed by a wonderful hands of an artists, to read some fanfiction, to read related to Lisa threads (oh, especially on UFSF) and to see that unical careful attitude of some other people to her. But most of all i need to see the original. The selected and simply fortuitous chosen episodes with Lisa's presence. And of course to do much of framegrabs, purposefully picking out the "special" moments with her.
If i don't receive it, my adoration dies away, til it disappears yet absolutely.
But how it is pleasant to return back to life after almost dead condition and to feel again somewhere inside of you these notes of easy music that heats our hearts so hotly!
* imagines how fondly, slightly...strokes the beautiful disobedient hairs of a wheat colour *

I'm not that much of a Lisa fan that I think about her all day. I do find Lisa to be a very complex and multi faceted character.

On a side note, what are your opinions on Yeardley Smith?

Keeping Lisa's voice consistent isn't really hard for Yeardley, because she sounds like that in real life.

I havent had the same exact voice for 10 years, I doubt anyone has. Exept for Stephen Hawking. Even Jeremy Clarkson's voice has changed a little. But you could look at a Simpsons episode from 1989, and an episode in 2007, they'd sound exactly the same. Ish.
I remember hearing Eric Cartmans voice after a long time and it was noticably different. Hence, I still hold my judgement stubbornly.

Thats true, I guess from that perspective your right. She doesnt have to try to imitate her character as much as the other cast characters, since they have such a wide range of voices to use where as Yeardley has just one character (as far as I know). I havent heard Yeardleys real voice, ever... so I'm just asuming she puts some effort into it. Unlike, for example, Guest Stars who try to sound as normal as posible. Is that correct? 

I loved Yeardley's voice in earlier episodes, she was more childish, less nasal, more sweet all around:
As for her best performance ever, it's not an episode imho, but a song:
"God Bless the Child"!

Ooh, that song is one of my favorites, I listen it from time to time.
Funny, but when I thing about Lisa, I very rarely (read: never) remember about Yeardley... maybe it's my usual carelessness, maybe I'm too attracted to Lisa to care about her voice. But to me, Lisa and Yeardley are generally two different people that for some reason have the same voice... this doesn't make it (voice) any worse of course I love it no matter did it change throughout the past years or not.

They sound like each other because Yeardley plays Lisa.


p.s I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong?

I'm only saying that to me, Lisa Simpson and Yeardley Smith are two separate people that sound alike. When I hear Lisa, I don't think of Yeardley and vice versa.

And no, having a crush on Yeardley isn't wrong. Loving someone isn't anything to be ashamed of.

I'm not a stalker, just a fan.

I like her additude too ;D  Hi Shin_Akuma, welcome to the boards.

Seriously, lisa's the perfect mix between the maturity and responsability of adulthood, still not losing the grip on the childisness and the carelessnes of her 8 years. I think that's why many see her as "the perfect element".

First of all, welcome to LTS Shin Akuma

SimpReal
I agree with you on the fact that she's a nice blend, her maturity allows her to have a clear view of the world around her. And her sometimes careless actions remind us that she's still human, not a perfect person. Indeed, though, her maturity sets her apart from many girls that I've met (unfortunately) and I think this contributes to my overwhelming love for her.

Dagdamor
I agree... when I used to love Lisa, I thought the regular show version of her would be better than winged Lisa. I never thought of winged Lisa as my Lisa... almost like a different person. But winged Lisa is still a nice thing

brakusaetsya
Of course, I agree that wings wouldn't make Lisa any less human, but you should have read some of my chat logs with other "wings-obsessed" Lisa fans (...or maybe better not to ) - sometimes it's hard to imagine Lisa exactly the same way she appears in the show when you think about her. Against your own will, you start to give her extra merits she probably doesn't have, you start to imagine her "winged" life among other people, etc... and one day you realize that Lisa in your mind differs from the one you see in the show a lot. Maybe it's not that bad to set your choice upon the canonic Lisa in that situation. You always can build your own image of her in the future.

Whoa, pretty much everything I can say has been said here so maybe I'll be a bit concise.

What made me fall in love with the character is her kindness, her selfless hard work to help and improve, her strong, passionate will to keep on going even though she faces such tough, what in my case would be morale breaking obstacles on her path.
You can also add most other incentives that have already been posted, and most certainly been dug up right from peoples hearts.
Before I noticed Lisa, my morals were, well, I wasn't a good person if I look back at it.
I felt so emotionless, dull, empty before I fell for her ways.
Now she makes me feel like I can take anything, no matter how tough it is, real happiness and what I see as the "love".
I quote from Gustavo "the love is in whom helps you to be the best one to be human…".
I reacted strongly to that, because it's true... she's helping me in being the best man I can be. Asking myself "What would Lisa do?" always helps, and even if I just need strength when I'm under pressure, feeling down, anything, thinking about her cheers me up, giving me the strength to keep going.
Her childishness, ability to be unsure and sometimes get mad, but still being able to see and correct her wrongs, to be shy and modest (and being all around cute ) is what perfects this treasure. I don't know how she could be any more perfect, she is what the true definition of "The perfect human being" should be.
Alas, she is not real, but her spirit lives within me nevertheless, and that's enough to fuel me. The real thing though, would be heaven.

And now I wrap that up! *LOL*, it wasn't quite as concise as I thought it would be. These forums are great anyway, they've allowed me to read about people who feel/felt the same way as me(I had no idea, made me think I was completely insane or maybe vice versa), and allowed me to get this heavy load off my chest and settle down, so I feel much more at ease now   As you probably imagine (and know) I don't get a chance to talk about these things with anyone else.
I'll probably continue skimming through (means reading carefully ^-^) these forums for a long time. Hope to see lots of interesting topics and fanfiction. Half way through the Wings story, and I love that kind of stuff Might just write a few of those myself when I have spare time.

Cheers!
/ Kasper

"Asking myself "What would Lisa do?" always helps,..."

Great post Kasper! You know those WWJD (What Would Jesus Do?) bracelets? You just gave me a brilliant idea. How about one that says WWLD?!

lizard_queen
Haha, that's not a bad idea actually A nice lil' accessory to remind me to think straight more often ^-^

lizard_queen
Hey, it's an interesting idea But I suppose some of Lisa's lifestyle ideas cannot be combined with lifestyle of some of her adorers (at least me). Although Lisa herself was fan of Corey, we saw, that she likes independent active people, quite mature, with some defined life purposes. But many people here a bit addictive and adore Lisa without sharing all her views (which are also controversial), and also she is a buddhist, so would she like religion with severe commandments? Maybe just one: learn during all your life and try don't hurt anyone doing this. Kinda like this...

I hope Lisaism will resemble Buddhism more than any other religion... no cults, no commandments that turn you into a slave, no stupid statements like "this religion is the only one, others are wrong", just simple foundations that make you a human. Like "live and let others live", I dunno. This line
sounds wise, I like it.

Kasper
Oh, don't worry about that, I'm an atheist too learned about several different religions, but didn't find anything suitable. I mentioned Buddhism above only because from all religions I know, this one is the most calm and tolerant one. But I don't share it either, so Lisa is the only goddess for me now (I'm half-joking of course, but she does mean much to me.) Maybe I said it wrong, but what I meant is, I also don't want Lisaism to turn into "yet another religion", and I agree, it's not even a religion at all, it looks more like a good idea, a set of principles. If I accumulate all my views about Lisa into the single phrase, it would sound like "be nice to the others", or even simpler, "be optimistic".

GeorgeHarrison (to this post)
True, and both me and Kasper understand perfectly that Christianity is more than those stories told in the Bible, or church routines, or ceremonies, or whatever. But who can be a spiritual leader for you and who cannot, everyone decides for himself. Someone can follow Spongebob, I don't care about that, as long as it makes him/her happy, I see no harm.

* Response to GeorgeHarrison is pointed at this post

GeorgeHarrison
I'm glad you see it this way, I didn't mean that religion promotes violence, but there have been, are, and will be conflicts around this (similar to the crusades you mentioned and people scaring other people into believing) as long as people can interpret these religions as the one true answer, like there couldn't possibly be any other way. This is courtesy of the fallacious human mind, our nature, just like animals, we have our ways. And please don't misinterpret the last sentence.
I commend you for staying true to your beliefs!

brakusaetsya
Again you speak wisely. I may also add that the thought of worshipping Lisa as a God never even crossed my mind.

Dagdamor
Indeed, prince Siddharthas cause is noble. I was actually thinking of becoming a buddhist before I tossed aside the idea of being part of a religion, even if I didn't completely share the beliefs.

Split part of the topic into a separate thread.

Yggdrasill
Not sure, but who knows? If you was not just nice to the others, if you was caring about environment, respected world of animals, helped others to learn good things... then very much possible that you was. Of course that "religion", or whatever you call it, cannot be expressed with a single short phrase; I only said about the most important part of it (most important to my opinion). I don't know what "Lisaism" can be; I just think it would be nice to try and research that, if we have the chance.

oh, and for the people who ask..." what if I dont have a brother?!" Well, you get a minus, sir!

Im in a very evil mood tonight- 

Sounds like a funny idea, I must admit... you know, believe it or not, when I used to be "in love" with Lisa, I tried to make my life as much like hers as I could. By recycling, standing up for all kinds of things she stood up for, basically making myself a vessel through which she could channel herself into our world.

Of course it got to the point of obsessiveness, and I'd be lying if I said it was a bit of a relief to not feel like Lisa was standing over my shoulder watching my every move Still, I don't suppose it's really a bad thing to learn from Lisa. Quite the opposite, really. Certainly better than learning from or following the example of someone like Homer or Bart...

lizard_queen
"Cured" I don't know Hard to say if it was a disease in the first place. Just a phase, I suppose. Eight months ago the Simpsons were my life. Nowadays I hardly watch them anymore.

lizard_queen
Meh, I just lost interest after awhile... I guess overdoing something at one point can be a bad thing, hm?

lizard_queen
Well thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls
*develops a Bartism instead*

But... But... I want to be a Lisaist as well!   (And actually, I wouldn't mind being a girl. From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad. ).

Hey, Dag which part exactly made you think that Lisaism is only for girls? I didnt mean it that way.

You could develop Bartism, but it's a pity, you know that Lisa always wins.

Andreas, I  do enjoy being a girl. I even like being frustrated about it sometimes. 

Kasper, That reminded me of the note Lisa received from her substitute teacher when they parted.  I'd say it is the best advice/reminder she ever received. And I was so happy for her and everyone else watching, hoping it gets through to them.   

Uhh, well Andreas if you don't mind dealing with your period once a month and giving birth, then by all means, go for it.

And like I've already said, I don't think that I'm really much of a "Lisaist" anymore, as for living her philosophy on life. Yet there are still some ideals that Lisa has planted in my brain that still remain and probably always will... for instance, I believe that men and women should be completely equal in society, and while I am not a vegetarian, I do support them. I have a certain reverence for nature now, and am definitely more environmentally aware.

Andreas
Well, to each their own And shaving doesn't exactly hurt like some other womanly inconveniences do...

That poem best describes how I feel.

I too, have confessed to being in love with Lisa....

I have the spirit of Lisa in me, and that to me makes her as live as anyone else. Whenever I am lonely, I look into that spirit, and she is right there next to me. That is how it essentially is. She is there with me all throughout the day, through the good and the bad.

I can really connect to Lisa. My boyfriend is my bestfriend and is pretty much the only one I can talk to about any thing and everything, but if I knew Lisa I would be able to talk to her about a lot of stuff too. I think that I could spend a lot of time with her without getting bored and frustrated. When I am in a really bad mood I usually read my Lisa comic and I feel a lot better. I also enjoy reading my copy of The Lisa Book. She is just someone who would be able to cheer me up and completely understand everything that I am going through.

better
Well, not if they've been around for awhile. This community is like a family.

I guess I should be the first to say welcome.

thinking about Lisa....

I have got to know a little more of my soul ...
the life has another meaning ...
The days (before boring and meaningless) is a new destiny marked with fire ...
Perhaps I was not in love with her ....
Maybe yes ...
Maybe not ...
Who can answer my question?
My heart does not know the answer ...
It is only a word ...
But when I talk about it, I feel happy and sad ...
Alive ...
With a dream ....
Perhaps I am pathetic ...
Perhaps brave ...
Who can answer my question?
Although the solitude of my bedroom is a small cloud in  my feelings ..
One word I find in my thoughts ...
Do you feel the same as me?
the Life is BEATIFUL ... "And in the deserts exist flowers" ...
Do you want to look?
in every place the hope exist... is only patience, force and love

You kidding? He's romanticism made blood and flesh, and i think our little Lisa has much to do with it
Gustavo, your post mixed with your photos is a work of art. So positive

Gustavo
Those flowers in the desert are easy to associate with Lisa. Both are sweet and fragile. Maybe it sounds silly, but it's still better than to compare women with fridges Homer once did For some reason I personally prefer something different to compare Lisa with. To me, she's something optimistic and active, full of energy, like little foal, or a sparrow. Never lose a hope; believe in yourself; don't live only for your own. That's pure Lisa for me.

Gustavo
I prefer to compare love to glass. Glass can be stretched and formed into all manner of wonderful designs. It can be straightforward and bland, or it can be wondrous and magnificent. But it's very fragile and if mishandled, breaks easily. And when it breaks, the leftover shards hurt whoever holds it closest to them.

Gustavo
It's one of the most powerful forces at work in the human mind. And there are two sides to it.

Now that we've matched pictures (lol), I say we let the topic return to what it was meant for... you're getting me very sidetracked here, hah.

My feelings towards smooth are very similar to those of Gustavo and GeorgeHarrison, that some years ago I was the target of taunts and insults since they are "common".
All this comes from the fact that this poor living my country, but that is another topic ...
By myself in this situation, I found someone who was going through the same thing that I ... Lisa Simpson, was misunderstood by other people and could not adapt to a world that apparently is not made for everyone ...
I have a great affection for it and I do believe that love. I always represented a guide to in order to survive, for me, represents the closest to perfection that can reach the poor human race.
But knowing that is not real, to know that I will never be able to reach makes me sad ... 

(Excuse my poor English, which is using a translator to have a better handling of the English  )

Rain_Kid
That's a good observation... but one of the things I like so much in Lisa, is that she's not perfect, she's only very very good. Everyone can follow her example, she's not a holy being. If she was, heck, she had much more troubles even living in Springfield, but she's fitting it quite well, so I see no reason why fans of Lisa cannot fit this world. And another thing: I always respect true fans of Lisa Simpsons for self-criticism and attempts to become a bit better.

Gustavo
Aww Warning, romanticism overload! Someone, quick, call Patty or Selma to bring Gustavo back in shape

Rain_Kid
Hah, don't worry about that I've got your post that way anyway. Besides, my first language is not English too, so you better not to know how I get certain posts on LTS sometimes. And if you use an automatic translator for your messages... I must say it's a rather good one.

Hello, everyone!

It's funny sometimes when things work out unexpectedly. I have long been a Lisa fan, though I also count the time before I was familiar with the Simpsons and really understood Lisa as I do today. When I found this site I was in a dark place. Alot has happened recently.

Flooding in the midwest has affected almost everything in my life, and while I didn't loose my home, its been alot of little things piling up that sucks.

expressed openly. (See about that post length?)

In reading this thread I can see I am not alone. It gives me great joy to see people here from different cultures (non-american), to know that what Lisa represents - at least for me - is a universal concept. Beyond the hate-mongering media and greedy corporate capitalists lie greener pastures. That goes for you American members, too.
Now then, introductions aside, I am very interested in learning more about this place and in particular about the process to

realms of thought and envisioning her lending me support through a kind word or upbeat jazzy tune. (The one from the end of ' Lisa's Sax ' is stuck in my head right now!)  Sometimes I just have to think about a particular quote or episode of hers and I feel alot better. She is, to me, the pinnacle representation of the human condition if it is allowed to flourish. It is with Lisa as my inspiration that I can express my own budding creative side.

CalculatedChaos
Well, let me be the first to say that that was quite a description of what Lisa means to you. It's also good to hear that this place has helped you express a little bit of what you've been going through. There are many people here who feel the same way that you do about Lisa being a figure of support, encouragement, and opportunity. It's good to have you here.

As an afterthought though, you might want to consider fitting all your thoughts into one post instead of posting separate messages... even though some posts tend to get a bit massive, it makes for a cleaner looking forum.

Edit: My bad, I didn't see you'd included another bit about length in one of your previous messages.

Hehe well I for one feel it's okay and that the problem could probably be sorted, besides, it's good to see long posts, even if they're chopped up a little bit
Anyway, Welcome to LTS Glad to hear you're finding it a help to express yourself here without worry ^_^

Dag you shouldnt be so downhearted about the lack of Lisa related posts. Think of it like this:

What has brought a group of great people together on a great forum which I think has matured into a good board with many interesting topics. LISA!

I think this is a board where Lisa would love to be a member, as it is in her Honor that we have some great intellectual discussion and some just plain fun. I am sure she would find all the stuff on here interesting. Not all of it is about her, and if it was 100% about Lisa this board would die as people would run out of things to say. The range of topics is testiment to the leaders and the posters here.

I love this place and I love the people here. We sometimes have our ups and downs like any place would. But people have left, and a lot have come back because of one thing. The great spirit here. We are the wood and Lisa is the glue that holds this place together.

This board IS the ultimate tribute to the "Yellow Spikey Haired Little girl we all adore".