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Just a general postage place for you to post your current thoughts, feelings, dreams, ambitions, comments and comendations to the one and only  Dont be shy! Come along and let us know!
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 05:58 » |
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Don't be shy, eh? Well... let's see... I love her very much. I can connect many songs with her. She helps me through a lot of tough situations, all I have to do is think of her. Every night as I fall asleep, I keep her in my thoughts in hopes of dreaming about her. As previously stated in the thread "Lisa Dreams" if I could have one wish, it would be to hold her in my arms forever. Just giving you the facts. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 09:22 » |
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Right now she's cheering for me and wishing me good luck with the job and contract possible good developements  *cheerleading* : Gimme an M ! Gimme an A! Gimme an R!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 19:06 » |
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She's telling me to get offline and finish my schoolwork. 
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ok ok Mat?as....  on Lisa Marie.... is a very special sensation  … I no have dreams to the future… to only be happy…  I love too much Lisa Marie…  in the nights it is his perfume….  in the complicity of the love that does not exist….  in the complicity to be single…  it is a creative and destructive force….  She is life and death…  she is not she is Lisa itself .....she not exist… but the soul of She yes… reflected in the beauty of the things… it is a so intense love that it has changed to me completely…  before she was an empty person…. that single it thought about the present…. it felt emptiness to me. it had vices  ... now I feel more complete…  with life… without more dreams than of being happy… sadly she never will be with me…  I will live nevertheless with her…… in the good things… in the friendship… in the hugs… in the glances… in the miracle to be alive… and with another opportunity…  she is the principle and the End  …. of my life….  the perfume and aroma of my thoughts…  it is not an egoistic love…  I do not say: I love you Lisa… only to you and nobody more.  I say: I love you Lisa… and in your sholy soul to everybody… in every moment in each sigh…  in worst of desires… and in most beautiful… purity of the thoughts… star sea… infinite secret… love of a kiss…  with her I am a happy person and complete… and from time to time it invades the sadness to me of not being able to have its glances… nevertheless all it happens… the wounds heal and I am a little more fort… lisa, lisa every day more…each day more love...  in the highest purity… in the dark of hell… there are no limits between the Earth and the sky…. She is everything for me…  AWW!.... (sorry by my english)
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 13:30 » |
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I have a strong desire to post like Gustavo posted above... because my feelings are pretty much the same... But oh well. I love this little girl like I never loved anyone before; and I believe some of the people here do, too, and understand my feelings. I just want to make my point clear - this is a very strange kind of love, I admit that, but I don't have and don't want any other one. I do realize that Lisa doesn't exist in this reality, and I do realize that even if there are people like Lisa on this Earth, they are unlikely look like her, or are in her age. I don't care. She is the only love in my life, and I don't want anything else. Sometimes she makes me sad, sometimes depressed, but most of the times - happy, and this helps me a lot in my life. To know about this eight year old spikey yellow heathen is far the best thing that ever happened in my life, and I'm happy I do. Again, I don't canonize her (aside from that wings obsession), I know she has her imperfections, but that only makes her more alive and adorable to me.  You are the best, Lisa; I hope more people will look at you and will try to follow your example. It won't make anyone worse for sure. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 14:51 » |
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What Dag has posted is a better explanation of the way I feel. I understand she doesn't "exist", but that doesn't stop me from wanting her, or loving her. I have always believed this saying: There are two things you cannot help but fall in - Love, and a grave. Here is one of those times where I cannot have helped but fallen in love with this adorable eight-year old girl. And sometimes, like Dag says, she can make me sad, or even angry, but she always is there to encourage me. As I've posted before, when she came into my life, she helped me change some aspects of my life, and now I'm a better man for it. I love no one else in this life; only her. Dag has said "this is a strange kind of love", and it is. But it's also real love, and for now, all I want, all I need, is that.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2007, 22:20 » |
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Most comendable, these posts, thanks for sharing your veiws  I'm not sorry for this, but I do not love Lisa... for the main reason my girlfriend would look at me strangly  However, I used to. To an extent she became an obsession. She told me what to do, and it was always the right thing. 'Tidy the bedroom, that way you dont stand on any upturned plugs'. I knew that the split SECOND I ignored her advice, a plug would stub my heel. So I did. I did my homework, bedroom, made my mum and dad cups O' tea. Eventualy, I kinda got anoyed about being told what to do by somebody who is stuck between my ears, so I went against her, ignored everything. Which was a mistake, I shouldnt have done. Made a lot of bad desicions which, I couldnt possibly share. After a break, the one saving grace, was Maggie. Which got me back on Lisa's good side  Henceforth, decided just to be friends. And I havent regretted it since 
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 13:08 » |
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I can't say I love Lisa either however I can see why so many people do.... I've had obsessions with cartoon characters before, however over time, my obsession eventualy dies down, although I still have an attchment to it, it's no longer something I think about constantly. So what do I think/feel about Lisa?.... Well, she's deffintly one of my fav characters on the show, and deffintly one of my fav to draw, since she's quite an expressive character, and I feel most people here can also say they can relate to her in one way or another  I feel this for my creative side (be it art or music) 
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2007, 20:44 » |
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The topic about one loving a cartoon has intrested me in some way. Not in a bad way but; I just don't know how people could 'love' a character. I understand it could be because she reminds you of yourself in some ways or another. Or maybe she does something that makes you think that you should or shouldn't have done something. But the subject of falling in love with something that isn't there or is real, puzzles me.  But we could relate somewhat.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2007, 21:36 » |
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This is the reason most of us probably wouldnt admit it to the general public. Try not to think of her as a person, but as a feeling. Sorta like, laying on the grass on a warm night looking at the stars. I love that feeling, just total peace. Thats the only way I can think of it really... but thats just for me, other people can explain how they see it 
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2007, 06:06 » |
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That's the reason why I don't tell many people about my love, although I don't try to hide it either. It's as much of a curse as it is a blessing, in that way. I mean, if I told a person I was in love with Lisa (apart from the people of this forum) they wouldn't understand, they'd just think that I liked little girls in the wrong way -_- But I love having this feeling of her being with me, even though it saddens me to know I'll never meet her in person.
To SpringfieldHorror: It puzzled me at first, that I was in love with Lisa, but as I posted previously, I think of it as that love is one of the two things in this world that you cannot stop yourself from falling in. Especially in the case of Lisa, she is so much a part of my life now that in a way to me she is real. And lots of people don't understand this feeling, but neither do they understand why other people love who they do. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is another great way to think of this.
Right at this moment though, I think without her I'd go insane.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2007, 11:13 » |
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I'm not really obsessed, but am in some form of love with her. To describe it better, I have a lot of sympathy for her, think she is very innocent and cute, and hope only the best for her.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 15:20 » |
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As an afterthought, many people who don't understand this feeling ridicule those who do. I was browsing Google last month, and stumbled across a forum where someone posted their feelings about Lisa. It was a Simpsons website, similar to ours, but less Lisa-oriented. The person who posted was mocked and flamed by the posters in that forum for loving a "fictional" character. I'm glad that our community here is full of respectful people who understand the views and feelings of others. 
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As an afterthought, many people who don't understand this feeling ridicule those who do. I was browsing Google last month, and stumbled across a forum where someone posted their feelings about Lisa. It was a Simpsons website, similar to ours, but less Lisa-oriented. The person who posted was mocked and flamed by the posters in that forum for loving a "fictional" character. I'm glad that our community here is full of respectful people who understand the views and feelings of others  Aw, that's not right.  I'm not putting the fire on anyone for feeling the way they do about her. I'm just stating that I'll probably never feel that way about any cartoon character. 
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Rizzy says: Aw, that's not right.  I'm not putting the fire on anyone for feeling the way they do about her. I'm just stating that I'll probably never feel that way about any cartoon character.  ______________________________________________- By all means… I understand very well what you mean… one always finds the love… he is not a personage. nor in a person… the love is in whom helps you to be the best one to be human…. in whom helps you to understand the life… the love no is a kiss or a hug… the love is "reborn" feniz and a new glance…  ( i found the love in Lisa ) 
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I don't wanna start the new thread for this, cause it concerns only to Lisa fans I think. Especially while the current theme means such reasonings. The point is in that. How frequently you need the maintenance of your fans feelings to Lisa? I mean all: how frequently you think about her; how often recollect her in a daily life, in all this crush and turmoil. Maybe you wear some kind of T-shirt with her bright face? Or maybe you are such lucky beggar, who already have a person anyhow constantly reminding to you itself Her?  As for me I don't have the instant feeling of Lisa somewhere inside myself I always need some "feeding" you know. I mean to see the good pictures with her drawed by a wonderful hands of an artists, to read some fanfiction, to read related to Lisa threads (oh, especially on UFSF) and to see that unical careful attitude of some  other people to her. But most of all i need to see the original. The selected and simply fortuitous chosen episodes with Lisa's presence. And of course to do much of framegrabs, purposefully picking out the "special" moments with her. If i don't receive it, my adoration dies away, til it disappears yet absolutely. But how it is pleasant to return back to life after almost dead condition and to feel again somewhere inside of you these notes of easy music that heats our hearts so hotly! * imagines how fondly, slightly...strokes the beautiful disobedient hairs of a wheat colour * 
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2007, 23:52 » |
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For me, fortunately, the fire inside me burns so hot that if I went a long time without watching the Simpsons, or seeing any pictures of her, I would still love her just as much. For me, I can just think about her beautiful face, bright eyes, and I'm instantly lost in the feeling.
I do, however, do things to "promote" my love. That is, listening to certain songs, playing my guitar, and drawing pictures of her. I have a few pictures of her on my binder, more though just to tell the world.
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I'm not that much of a Lisa fan that I think about her all day. I do find Lisa to be a very complex and multi faceted character.
On a side note, what are your opinions on Yeardley Smith?
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Never met her  But, she obviously must be incredibly talented to keep the Lisa voice consistant for over 10 years!  Didnt she leak information on the movie previously? Or am I confused... 
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Never met her  But, she obviously must be incredibly talented to keep the Lisa voice consistant for over 10 years!  Didnt she leak information on the movie previously? Or am I confused...  Keeping Lisa's voice consistent isn't really hard for Yeardley, because she sounds like that in real life. 
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Keeping Lisa's voice consistent isn't really hard for Yeardley, because she sounds like that in real life.  Yep... if you've seen her in movies, or heard her in interviews, you'd know that she doesn't have to try very hard.
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I havent had the same exact voice for 10 years, I doubt anyone has. Exept for Stephen Hawking. Even Jeremy Clarkson's voice has changed a little. But you could look at a Simpsons episode from 1989, and an episode in 2007, they'd sound exactly the same. Ish. I remember hearing Eric Cartmans voice after a long time and it was noticably different. Hence, I still hold my judgement stubbornly. 
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I havent had the same exact voice for 10 years, I doubt anyone has. Exept for Stephen Hawking. Even Jeremy Clarkson's voice has changed a little. But you could look at a Simpsons episode from 1989, and an episode in 2007, they'd sound exactly the same. Ish. I remember hearing Eric Cartmans voice after a long time and it was noticably different. Hence, I still hold my judgement stubbornly.  I'm not saying her voice hasn't changed at all. I'm just comparing her to other actors, like Dan Castellanata, who don't sound like their characters at all while speaking normally.
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Thats true, I guess from that perspective your right. She doesnt have to try to imitate her character as much as the other cast characters, since they have such a wide range of voices to use where as Yeardley has just one character (as far as I know). I havent heard Yeardleys real voice, ever... so I'm just asuming she puts some effort into it. Unlike, for example, Guest Stars who try to sound as normal as posible. Is that correct? 
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The only thing Yeardley has to do is make her voice sound a bit more childish, like changing the tone of her voice a bit. Other than that she sounds the exact same.
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I loved Yeardley's voice in earlier episodes, she was more childish, less nasal, more sweet all around: As for her best performance ever, it's not an episode imho, but a song: "God Bless the Child"!
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heh yeah that song was good. I loved hearing Yeardley sing that on the Blues Album.
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Ooh, that song is one of my favorites, I listen it from time to time. Funny, but when I thing about Lisa, I very rarely (read: never) remember about Yeardley...  maybe it's my usual carelessness, maybe I'm too attracted to Lisa to care about her voice. But to me, Lisa and Yeardley are generally two different people that for some reason have the same voice... this doesn't make it (voice) any worse of course  I love it no matter did it change throughout the past years or not.
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2007, 07:17 » |
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I feel sort of the same way. To me, Lisa Simpson and Yeardley Smith just sound like each other. Kind of like the way John Lennon almost sounds like George Harrison. 
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They sound like each other because Yeardley plays Lisa.
p.s I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong?
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p.s I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong?
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They sound like each other because Yeardley plays Lisa.
p.s I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong?
I'm only saying that to me, Lisa Simpson and Yeardley Smith are two separate people that sound alike. When I hear Lisa, I don't think of Yeardley and vice versa. And no, having a crush on Yeardley isn't wrong. Loving someone isn't anything to be ashamed of.
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I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong? Well that depends on how old you are. Yeardley is a grown-up girl, you know:-) Kidding, just kidding:-) I think it's rather okay as long as it doesn't hurt you or her.
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I have a little crush on Yeardley, is that wrong? Well that depends on how old you are. Yeardley is a grown-up girl, you know:-) Kidding, just kidding:-) I think it's rather okay as long as it doesn't hurt you or her. I'm not a stalker, just a fan.
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2007, 12:01 » |
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Lisa is my favorite character in the show. i like her additude 
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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2007, 18:16 » |
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I like her additude too ;D Hi Shin_Akuma, welcome to the boards.  Seriously, lisa's the perfect mix between the maturity and responsability of adulthood, still not losing the grip on the childisness and the carelessnes of her 8 years. I think that's why many see her as "the perfect element".
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I always think Lisa as my ally or something. Lisa is the girl, what i want  ;D
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First of all, welcome to LTS Shin Akuma SimpRealI agree with you on the fact that she's a nice blend, her maturity allows her to have a clear view of the world around her. And her sometimes careless actions remind us that she's still human, not a perfect person. Indeed, though, her maturity sets her apart from many girls that I've met (unfortunately) and I think this contributes to my overwhelming love for her.
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Rewatched the "I love Lisa" episode some time ago and suddenly realized that from all versions of Lisa I've ever seen (and I've seen many of them), I like the regular, "canonic" Lisa the most. Even if someone would let me choose between a winged angel Lisa from fantasies/fanart, and Lisa from the show, I'd choose the second. (It would be a tough choice, though.  ) Why? I don't know, maybe because Lisa from the show is the most alive, animated one to me, and I don't have enough of imagination to make my fantasies about her look alive. But I'm sure, the "regular" version of Lisa is the best. Even if she can't fly and sometimes acts childish or angry. That only makes her better. 
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DagdamorI agree... when I used to love Lisa, I thought the regular show version of her would be better than winged Lisa. I never thought of winged Lisa as my Lisa... almost like a different person. But winged Lisa is still a nice thing 
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It's so strange to hear... I never separated these two Lisas from each other - they both full of life; and as for me, little angels could suffer or act childish & angry too, I never imagined angel Lisa as someone lofty and perfect, she is pretty realistic too. Just more free and can fly, but she is still Lisa.
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brakusaetsyaOf course, I agree that wings wouldn't make Lisa any less human, but you should have read some of my chat logs with other "wings-obsessed" Lisa fans (...or maybe better not to  ) - sometimes it's hard to imagine Lisa exactly the same way she appears in the show when you think about her. Against your own will, you start to give her extra merits she probably doesn't have, you start to imagine her "winged" life among other people, etc... and one day you realize that Lisa in your mind differs from the one you see in the show a lot. Maybe it's not that bad to set your choice upon the canonic Lisa in that situation. You always can build your own image of her in the future. 
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the wings represent (for my) liberty… she is simply very beautiful… she is adorable and a great love... the wings are only a reflection of the beauty…. (and like in all the things)… sometimes they become sighs)… nothing is perfect… nevertheless in her the world is much more beautiful… and with her I can understand to all the things  … (and my demons) liberty.... 
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Whoa, pretty much everything I can say has been said here so maybe I'll be a bit concise. What made me fall in love with the character is her kindness, her selfless hard work to help and improve, her strong, passionate will to keep on going even though she faces such tough, what in my case would be morale breaking obstacles on her path. You can also add most other incentives that have already been posted, and most certainly been dug up right from peoples hearts.  Before I noticed Lisa, my morals were, well, I wasn't a good person if I look back at it. I felt so emotionless, dull, empty before I fell for her ways. Now she makes me feel like I can take anything, no matter how tough it is, real happiness and what I see as the "love". I quote from Gustavo "the love is in whom helps you to be the best one to be human…". I reacted strongly to that, because it's true... she's helping me in being the best man I can be. Asking myself "What would Lisa do?" always helps, and even if I just need strength when I'm under pressure, feeling down, anything, thinking about her cheers me up, giving me the strength to keep going. Her childishness, ability to be unsure and sometimes get mad, but still being able to see and correct her wrongs, to be shy and modest (and being all around cute  ) is what perfects this treasure. I don't know how she could be any more perfect, she is what the true definition of "The perfect human being" should be. Alas, she is not real, but her spirit lives within me nevertheless, and that's enough to fuel me. The real thing though, would be heaven. And now I wrap that up! *LOL*, it wasn't quite as concise as I thought it would be. These forums are great anyway, they've allowed me to read about people who feel/felt the same way as me(I had no idea, made me think I was completely insane or maybe vice versa), and allowed me to get this heavy load off my chest and settle down, so I feel much more at ease now  As you probably imagine (and know) I don't get a chance to talk about these things with anyone else. I'll probably continue skimming through (means reading carefully ^-^) these forums for a long time. Hope to see lots of interesting topics and fanfiction. Half way through the Wings story, and I love that kind of stuff  Might just write a few of those myself when I have spare time. Cheers!  / Kasper
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KasperI know the feeling you describe all too well. Although I don't necessarily "love" Lisa anymore, I still respect her morals and convictions, and yes I understand not being able to really talk about this with anyone else. This forum is a great refuge for those who feel like this. Glad you found us 
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"Asking myself "What would Lisa do?" always helps,..." Great post Kasper! You know those WWJD (What Would Jesus Do?) bracelets? You just gave me a brilliant idea. How about one that says WWLD?! 
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lizard_queenWWLD... Nice idea  Hell, why don't we just start a new religion, Lisaism?  I'm sure we'd have more than one joiner from this forum.
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lizard_queenHaha, that's not a bad idea actually  A nice lil' accessory to remind me to think straight more often ^-^
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lizard_queenWWLD... Nice idea  Hell, why don't we just start a new religion, Lisaism?  I'm sure we'd have more than one joiner from this forum. Lisaism sounds great, GH!!!  We would need 10 commandments inspired by Lisa's ideas and lifestyle. Or maybe 50... heh. Star Wars became a religion, so I dont see why not! She is such an inspirational figure and a great role model.
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lizard_queenWe would need 10 commandments inspired by Lisa's ideas and lifestyle Hey, it's an interesting idea  But I suppose some of Lisa's lifestyle ideas cannot be combined with lifestyle of some of her adorers (at least me). Although Lisa herself was fan of Corey, we saw, that she likes independent active people, quite mature, with some defined life purposes. But many people here a bit addictive and adore Lisa without sharing all her views (which are also controversial), and also she is a buddhist, so would she like religion with severe commandments? Maybe just one: learn during all your life and try don't hurt anyone doing this. Kinda like this...
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brakusaetsyaTruth and a share of wisdom in there, ten points!  "Lisaism" sounds way off, it's just not "Lisa"  Maybe just one: learn during all your life and try don't hurt anyone doing this. True, I've actually been wanting to draw a chart, just for fun (and maybe as a guideline when I'm unsure), for what I personally think would be the ideal action for most situations on a moral/ethic based algorithm. Basic idea being that it circles around how each action affects other people in a good/bad way... Ah, it involves too many technicalities to explain here  Things will always be controversial though, but just a wacky project xD
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I hope Lisaism will resemble Buddhism more than any other religion... no cults, no commandments that turn you into a slave, no stupid statements like "this religion is the only one, others are wrong", just simple foundations that make you a human. Like "live and let others live", I dunno. This line learn during all your life and try don't hurt anyone doing this. sounds wise, I like it. 
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Dagdamor I actually don't think such a thing could be called "religion", to me a religion is basically speculations around things that have no explanation, things that cannot be proved or disproved. "Belief" if you will. Go to heaven/hell, get your virgins and a river of honey, existence is suffering - be a good person and reach nirvana... Basically it's a bunch of ideas that could be presented by anyone, there's never any hard evidence... I'm not denying the fact that there may be a god, in fact, we're all ignorant as to what brought us here or what will happen when we die, I just don't think it's right to assume that one of these is right. Live well and always do your best to be a good person, should it really have to be any harder than that? Yes, let's make a bunch of promises of what awaits you if you do what I think is right, and throw in a "hell" that's so horrifying that people are scared into belief. Religion causes conflicts and often drives people to do the wrong thing, either the believers or the non believers. So even if the teachings usually have a nice ring to them it often drives people the wrong direction. I've got waaaaaaaaaaay more to say, but bottom line; religion causes controversy on a massive scale, which inevitably makes it a source of suffering, one person can't accept the next persons beliefs, things turn ugly. I hate it when I start thinking about these things, but I couldn't imagine "Lisaism" as a "religion", because it should be purely about seeing logic and good reasoning. No lies or belief that isn't solid. Apologies to any religious person reading this, I respect your beliefs, I just don't think it's worth it.
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KasperOh, don't worry about that, I'm an atheist too  learned about several different religions, but didn't find anything suitable. I mentioned Buddhism above only because from all religions I know, this one is the most calm and tolerant one. But I don't share it either, so Lisa is the only goddess for me now  (I'm half-joking of course, but she does mean much to me.) Maybe I said it wrong, but what I meant is, I also don't want Lisaism to turn into "yet another religion", and I agree, it's not even a religion at all, it looks more like a good idea, a set of principles. If I accumulate all my views about Lisa into the single phrase, it would sound like "be nice to the others", or even simpler, "be optimistic".
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KasperI don't think anyone here meant respecting Lisa as a god, like people she created in one of THOH-episodes did or something like this  For me that "lisaism" could mean simple following her. Struggling for something important for you, enjoying study, giggling and acting like stupid when nice boy appears, and changing things around you as you can. But Lisa, as I said, likes, when people act independently, not being brainwashed by some idols. And also, I think some people here want to be with Lisa, not as Lisa. So, even it couldn't be religion exactly, existence of any followers of this "lisaism" will be a paradox. UPD. Oh, all that sound like a nonsence  I just wanted to say, that if there is some thing calling "lisaism", it's completely unique for every lisadorer. And it differs from one person to another more than branches of christianity, I suppose 
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GeorgeHarrison (to this post) True, and both me and Kasper understand perfectly that Christianity is more than those stories told in the Bible, or church routines, or ceremonies, or whatever. But who can be a spiritual leader for you and who cannot, everyone decides for himself. Someone can follow Spongebob, I don't care about that, as long as it makes him/her happy, I see no harm. 
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Well, whatever makes them happy... I'd say though that people who followed cartoon characters as spiritual leaders were just the kind of atheists that like to mock religion. 
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* Response to GeorgeHarrison is pointed at this post GeorgeHarrisonI'm glad you see it this way, I didn't mean that religion promotes violence, but there have been, are, and will be conflicts around this (similar to the crusades you mentioned and people scaring other people into believing) as long as people can interpret these religions as the one true answer, like there couldn't possibly be any other way. This is courtesy of the fallacious human mind, our nature, just like animals, we have our ways. And please don't misinterpret the last sentence. I commend you for staying true to your beliefs! brakusaetsya Again you speak wisely. I may also add that the thought of worshipping Lisa as a God never even crossed my mind. DagdamorIndeed, prince Siddharthas cause is noble. I was actually thinking of becoming a buddhist before I tossed aside the idea of being part of a religion, even if I didn't completely share the beliefs.
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I view Lisa and Winged Lisa as one person. Mainly because I see both as sweet, pure, and innocent; but the winged Lisa as a physical manifestation of all of that.
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Split part of the topic into a separate thread. YggdrasillNot sure, but who knows? If you was not just nice to the others, if you was caring about environment, respected world of animals, helped others to learn good things... then very much possible that you was.  Of course that "religion", or whatever you call it, cannot be expressed with a single short phrase; I only said about the most important part of it (most important to my opinion). I don't know what "Lisaism" can be; I just think it would be nice to try and research that, if we have the chance.
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Whoa!  I should have known that religious topic always makes the sparks fly, but I did NOT see this one coming, as I didn?t take it seriously. By the way, Lisaism doesn?t even have to be a religion per se. How about a different kind of philosophy based only on facts from the show? Even some bad ones, just for the sake of keeping it light. For instance, a ?teaching? that requires that you get back at your brother with a crazy experiment involving a cupcake?  What would be the point of this?  Fun mostly, with a moral lesson here and there. After all we are talking about Lisa Simpson.  In order to become a devotee you have to. A) Recycle, B) write a song about horrors of bullfighting, or C) fall in love with a Nelson-type and try to convert him/her into a gentleman/lady. Do all three and you get your golden starfish sticker. See where I'm going? 
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lizard_queenIndeed, I could still picture the "Lisaism" idea as a fun thing or as Dagdamor proposed, just a basic set of ideas for being a good person. In swedish I think the term "Livs?sk?dning" would fit this, I don't know an english counterpart (thank you very much, swedish grammar) as a single word, neither does the dictionary. But it's basically the same thing "outlook on life" or "philosophy of life", just a string of thoughts. "Getting back at your brother with a crazy experiment involving a cupcake" (  ) those kinda things could probably be endorsed, but I think only (well, mostly ^^) for the sake of humor, not as a ravenous desire for revenge. 
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Sounds like a funny idea, I must admit... you know, believe it or not, when I used to be "in love" with Lisa, I tried to make my life as much like hers as I could. By recycling, standing up for all kinds of things she stood up for, basically making myself a vessel through which she could channel herself into our world.  Of course it got to the point of obsessiveness, and I'd be lying if I said it was a bit of a relief to not feel like Lisa was standing over my shoulder watching my every move  Still, I don't suppose it's really a bad thing to learn from Lisa. Quite the opposite, really. Certainly better than learning from or following the example of someone like Homer or Bart...
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those kinda things could probably be endorsed, but I think only (well, mostly ^^) for the sake of humor, not as a ravenous desire for revenge.  But of course, Kasper!, Or??...  Sounds like a funny idea, I must admit... you know, believe it or not, when I used to be "in love" with Lisa, I tried to make my life as much like hers as I could. By recycling, standing up for all kinds of things she stood up for, basically making myself a vessel through which she could channel herself into our world  Of course it got to the point of obsessiveness, and I'd be lying if I said it was a bit of a relief to not feel like Lisa was standing over my shoulder watching my every move  Still, I don't suppose it's really a bad thing to learn from Lisa. Quite the opposite, really. Certainly better than learning from or following the example of someone like Homer or Bart... Some obsessivness can be healthy for the soul, George. Ok, maybe not... it's meant as a joke of course. But if someones wishes to take it seriously, there are many good sides of Lisa's lifestyle/philosophy that could turn anybody into a better person. I think.  There's something so comfortably addictive about the Simpsons in general... If youre cured, good for you. I'm afraid my condition is only getting worse. But I'm kind of proud of it.
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lizard_queen"Cured" I don't know  Hard to say if it was a disease in the first place. Just a phase, I suppose. Eight months ago the Simpsons were my life. Nowadays I hardly watch them anymore.
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lizard_queen"Cured" I don't know  Hard to say if it was a disease in the first place. Just a phase, I suppose. Eight months ago the Simpsons were my life. Nowadays I hardly watch them anymore. Hardly watch them anymore?!  Repent, repent! Everyone needs some yellow in their life. 
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lizard_queenMeh, I just lost interest after awhile... I guess overdoing something at one point can be a bad thing, hm? 
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KasperLisaskadning, eh?  Not sure about Swedish, but in the Ancient Greece there was a thing that resembles my views about Lisaism a lot. It was called Stoicism and was more philosophy than religion; although it had traits of them both. The main ideas are: the spirit is more important than body, emotions should be under control, you should cope with imperfections of the others, always follow your principles etc. It didn't have anything about cats, ponies or vegetarianism, but it still had quite nice ideas we could use. Dunno how that philosophy is popular nowadays, though.
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lizard_queenWell thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  *develops a Bartism instead*
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DagdamorActually, it sounds like Stoicism is a "livs?sk?dning"; like I said "outlook on life" or "philosophy of life". So the term "livs?sk?dning" doesn't define any principles or philosophies, it's just what you call things like Stoicism or New Age, perhaps you're familiar with the this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_AgeSo yeah, we're on the same track here. 
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Well thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  But... But... I want to be a Lisaist as well!  (And actually, I wouldn't mind being a girl. From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad.  ).
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« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2007, 19:26 » |
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From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad.  ...<_< ....>_> ....I must be a rebel then  Either that or a tomboy or something O_o Anyway, don't think I'd mind being a Lisaist too much XD However I'm not really a religious person so I probably wouldn't be able to keep it up >_<
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lizard_queenWell thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  *develops a Bartism instead* Hey, Dag which part exactly made you think that Lisaism is only for girls? I didnt mean it that way. You could develop Bartism, but it's a pity, you know that Lisa always wins. Andreas, I do enjoy being a girl. I even like being frustrated about it sometimes. 
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lizard_queenThere's something so comfortably addictive about the Simpsons in general... If youre cured, good for you. I'm afraid my condition is only getting worse. But I'm kind of proud of it.  Overlooked this, just had to say KUDOS! It's so good to hear people be proud of who they are. Sad when they're ashamed of it. Possible nomination for the "Lisa scriptures".  Never be ashamed of who you REALLY are. ^-^
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Overlooked this, just had to say KUDOS! It's so good to hear people be proud of who they are. Sad when they're ashamed of it. Possible nomination for the "Lisa scriptures".  Never be ashamed of who you REALLY are. ^-^ Kasper, That reminded me of the note Lisa received from her substitute teacher when they parted. I'd say it is the best advice/reminder she ever received. And I was so happy for her and everyone else watching, hoping it gets through to them. 
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lizard_queenIndeed, it's one of my favorite episodes, and it's the place I originally got the thought from.  Things around Lisa inspire me alot. 
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And actually, I wouldn't mind being a girl. From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad.  Uhh, well Andreas if you don't mind dealing with your period once a month and giving birth, then by all means, go for it.  And like I've already said, I don't think that I'm really much of a "Lisaist" anymore, as for living her philosophy on life. Yet there are still some ideals that Lisa has planted in my brain that still remain and probably always will... for instance, I believe that men and women should be completely equal in society, and while I am not a vegetarian, I do support them. I have a certain reverence for nature now, and am definitely more environmentally aware.
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@GeorgeHarrison: Well, being male also has certain disadvantages, such as the need of constantly shaving your beard - and a woman doesn't have to give birth, if she doesn't want to.  @Kasper: Well said!  Needless to say, "Lisa's Substitute" is one of my favorites as well, and Mr. Bergstrom's advice to Lisa is probably one of the most valuable (and memorable) lines of the entire show. I value its meaning a lot and try to be myself as well, regardless of what happens. Being an optimist about yourself can be hard sometimes, but in the end, it pays off.
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AndreasWell, to each their own  And shaving doesn't exactly hurt like some other womanly inconveniences do...
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To me, women's ability to give birth is not just a lot of pain... it's the ability to bring a new life to this world in the first place. Like someone once said, men have invented thousands ways to take life, and women have only one way to bring it back. I don't think I would ever agree to be a girl, even if someone offered me that  but raising your own child must be a wonderful thing. Marge would support me in that  she loves all her children equally. And I hope Lisa will be as loving and caring mom when she grows up, although this topic has been never seriously touched in the show (aside from several funny dreams/fantasies about her future Lisa had).
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ok ok Mat?as....  on Lisa Marie.... is a very special sensation  … I no have dreams to the future… to only be happy…  I love too much Lisa Marie…  in the nights it is his perfume….  in the complicity of the love that does not exist….  in the complicity to be single…  it is a creative and destructive force….  She is life and death…  she is not she is Lisa itself .....she not exist… but the soul of She yes… reflected in the beauty of the things… it is a so intense love that it has changed to me completely…  before she was an empty person…. that single it thought about the present…. it felt emptiness to me. it had vices  ... now I feel more complete…  with life… without more dreams than of being happy… sadly she never will be with me…  I will live nevertheless with her…… in the good things… in the friendship… in the hugs… in the glances… in the miracle to be alive… and with another opportunity…  she is the principle and the End  …. of my life….  the perfume and aroma of my thoughts…  it is not an egoistic love…  I do not say: I love you Lisa… only to you and nobody more.  I say: I love you Lisa… and in your sholy soul to everybody… in every moment in each sigh…  in worst of desires… and in most beautiful… purity of the thoughts… star sea… infinite secret… love of a kiss…  with her I am a happy person and complete… and from time to time it invades the sadness to me of not being able to have its glances… nevertheless all it happens… the wounds heal and I am a little more fort… lisa, lisa every day more…each day more love...  in the highest purity… in the dark of hell… there are no limits between the Earth and the sky…. She is everything for me…  AWW!.... (sorry by my english) That poem best describes how I feel. I too, have confessed to being in love with Lisa.... I have the spirit of Lisa in me, and that to me makes her as live as anyone else. Whenever I am lonely, I look into that spirit, and she is right there next to me. That is how it essentially is. She is there with me all throughout the day, through the good and the bad.
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« Reply #83 on: October 21, 2007, 19:15 » |
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Well, I totally love Lisa Simpson! She is the only Simpsons character I can relate to! 
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I can really connect to Lisa. My boyfriend is my bestfriend and is pretty much the only one I can talk to about any thing and everything, but if I knew Lisa I would be able to talk to her about a lot of stuff too. I think that I could spend a lot of time with her without getting bored and frustrated. When I am in a really bad mood I usually read my Lisa comic and I feel a lot better. I also enjoy reading my copy of The Lisa Book. She is just someone who would be able to cheer me up and completely understand everything that I am going through.
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I dont think there is anything here that makes any one shy. This is a simple question and person can give there answer as no one knows who is here with which name and from where.
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Wow, there have sure been some... interesting posts in this thread  I never knew people could feel so strongly about a cartoon character... I don't know if I would be able to do that  Still, it seems like a lot of you here feel that way and are okay with it  If there was ever a cartoon character to fall in love with, Lisa has the personality for it I'm sure. Hey, well that shows that you're not a shallow person then! 
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thinking about Lisa.... I have got to know a little more of my soul ... the life has another meaning ... The days (before boring and meaningless) is a new destiny marked with fire ... Perhaps I was not in love with her .... Maybe yes ... Maybe not ... Who can answer my question? My heart does not know the answer ... It is only a word ... But when I talk about it, I feel happy and sad ... Alive ... With a dream .... Perhaps I am pathetic ... Perhaps brave ... Who can answer my question? Although the solitude of my bedroom is a small cloud in my feelings .. One word I find in my thoughts ... Do you feel the same as me? the Life is BEATIFUL ... "And in the deserts exist flowers" ... Do you want to look? in every place the hope exist... is only patience, force and love
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GustavoOh ... wow  Did you take those? I can't believe it, it's just ... mind-blowing. That desert landscape is hypnotizing, and the flowers make it so beautiful. Gustavo, you are ... for lack of a better word ... a very romantic person 
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Gustavo, you are ... for lack of a better word ... a very romantic person  You kidding? He's romanticism made blood and flesh, and i think our little Lisa has much to do with it  Gustavo, your post mixed with your photos is a work of art. So positive 
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to Sylenne and Marco:  ____________ lisa says: sorry....  gustavo is very shy..
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GustavoThose flowers in the desert are easy to associate with Lisa. Both are sweet and fragile. Maybe it sounds silly, but it's still better than to compare women with fridges Homer once did  For some reason I personally prefer something different to compare Lisa with. To me, she's something optimistic and active, full of energy, like little foal, or a sparrow. Never lose a hope; believe in yourself; don't live only for your own. That's pure Lisa for me. 
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I personally prefer something different to compare Lisa with. To me, she's something optimistic and active, full of energy, like little foal, or a sparrow. Never lose a hope; believe in yourself; don't live only for your own. That's pure Lisa for me.  yeah  but remenber that the love too is fragile... and a simbol of this are the flowers and the blood... 
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Gustavo I prefer to compare love to glass. Glass can be stretched and formed into all manner of wonderful designs. It can be straightforward and bland, or it can be wondrous and magnificent. But it's very fragile and if mishandled, breaks easily. And when it breaks, the leftover shards hurt whoever holds it closest to them.
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GeorgeThe Pieces of glass (break or in a piece) are a wonderful event.. every love is pain and hurts George the Love offers a revelation over the years ... "Behind every great love .. the death and the pain lurks" The nature of the erotic love is a feeling of complete merger .... That is impossible and creates a sense of disappointment... This desire creates and destroys in the humans and is expressed through art ...(or the madness) 
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Gustavo It's one of the most powerful forces at work in the human mind. And there are two sides to it.
Now that we've matched pictures (lol), I say we let the topic return to what it was meant for... you're getting me very sidetracked here, hah.
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Gustavo GeorgeHarrison That's... the most unusual comparison I've even read - but it makes sense (to some degree). Lisa is indeed very fragile, like any kid of her age would be. But she's not so inflexible as you try to imply her. She can admit her mistakes, she's able to change her feelings about someone else. Glass is still a great example though. I'd also say that she's as clear and transparent as that glass; she doesn't have those ugly desires, fears or secrets most of people keep inside.
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My feelings towards smooth are very similar to those of Gustavo and GeorgeHarrison, that some years ago I was the target of taunts and insults since they are "common". All this comes from the fact that this poor living my country, but that is another topic ... By myself in this situation, I found someone who was going through the same thing that I ... Lisa Simpson, was misunderstood by other people and could not adapt to a world that apparently is not made for everyone ... I have a great affection for it and I do believe that love. I always represented a guide to in order to survive, for me, represents the closest to perfection that can reach the poor human race. But knowing that is not real, to know that I will never be able to reach makes me sad ...  (Excuse my poor English, which is using a translator to have a better handling of the English  )
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Hmmm .... Thinking things calmly ...  Talk about the love ...is not talk about Lisa .... "Is to talk about yourself" .... the Beauty and the charm are just a reflection of our own soul ... is only a mirror... Lisa says: why? my dear Lisa I found something in your eyes is only my old smile dancing with your smile I am not complete ... But I am so close to being happy ...
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Rain_KidThat's a good observation... but one of the things I like so much in Lisa, is that she's not perfect, she's only very very good. Everyone can follow her example, she's not a holy being. If she was, heck, she had much more troubles even living in Springfield, but she's fitting it quite well, so I see no reason why fans of Lisa cannot fit this world.  And another thing: I always respect true fans of Lisa Simpsons for self-criticism and attempts to become a bit better. GustavoAww  Warning, romanticism overload! Someone, quick, call Patty or Selma to bring Gustavo back in shape 
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DagdamorThere was an error in translation ... My feelings towards smooth are very similar to those of Gustavo and GeorgeHarrison, that some years ago I was the target of taunts and insults since they are "common". All this comes from the fact that this poor living my country, but that is another topic ... By myself in this situation, I found someone who was going through the same thing that I ... Lisa Simpson, was misunderstood by other people and could not adapt to a world that apparently is not made for everyone ... I have a great affection for it and I do believe that love. I always represented a guide to in order to survive, for me, represents the closest to perfection that can reach the poor human race. But knowing that is not real, to know that I will never be able to reach makes me sad ...  (Excuse my poor English, which is using a translator to have a better handling of the English  ) What I meant was that Lisa spent by the same thing that I ... Unable misinterpreted, that it never told anyone ... Well except here (Sorry by my bad English, Now another translator good look better  )
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Rain_KidHah, don't worry about that  I've got your post that way anyway. Besides, my first language is not English too, so you better not to know how I get certain posts on LTS sometimes.  And if you use an automatic translator for your messages... I must say it's a rather good one.
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Hmmm .... Thinking things calmly ...  Talk about the love ...is not talk about Lisa .... "Is to talk about yourself" .... the Beauty and the charm are just a reflection of our own soul ... is only a mirror... Lisa says: why? my dear Lisa I found something in your eyes is only my old smile dancing with your smile I am not complete ... But I am so close to being happy ... You always say the nicest things  But it's true, i do think that the Lisa we are all "obsessing over" here, is not the Lisa Simpsons of Fox networks... well, yeah, a part of her is. The looks, the voice, the basic morals, the life, the past, the griefs and happyness. But i'm very sure we are all "completing" that Lisa with something that comes deep inside from our souls, a part of us that maybe cannot find another way to get out and has to bond itself to Lisa to be expressed and accepted. When one talks of Lisa here, i think he/she's talking of a personal idea of her. I think Lisa helped me out a lot in my life, in giving me the chance to do exactly that, in many ways, and this foum is one of them.
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« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2008, 00:49 » |
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Hello, everyone!
It's funny sometimes when things work out unexpectedly. I have long been a Lisa fan, though I also count the time before I was familiar with the Simpsons and really understood Lisa as I do today. When I found this site I was in a dark place. Alot has happened recently.
Flooding in the midwest has affected almost everything in my life, and while I didn't loose my home, its been alot of little things piling up that sucks.
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Missing work due to the roads, getting burglarized twice (They got all 10 Simpsons seasons plus the movie!) and not being able to replace what was taken due to the missing money from the missed work.
Arg! I could go on for quite a while, but I'd hate to bore you. And sorry this is so choppy, I'm using my PSP so there's only so much I can fit per post.
Anyways. *deep breath* This truely is a terrific site. I hardly imagined an outlet where my feelings for that brave and daring sunflower-blonde could be
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« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2008, 01:19 » |
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expressed openly. (See about that post length?)
In reading this thread I can see I am not alone. It gives me great joy to see people here from different cultures (non-american), to know that what Lisa represents - at least for me - is a universal concept. Beyond the hate-mongering media and greedy corporate capitalists lie greener pastures. That goes for you American members, too. Now then, introductions aside, I am very interested in learning more about this place and in particular about the process to
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« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2008, 01:37 » |
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submit fanfics (I'm working on one involving Sideshow Bob set during Lisa and Bart's High School years.)
Now onto the topic at hand, Lisa. Gustavo, I am sincerely impressed with your poetic spirit. I aspire to great levels of creativity through the written word as well (Much to my poor thumbs' dismay!). So continue to fight the good fight, kind sir!
Most of my days are spent toiling in a factory, and I oftentimes find that it would be next to impossible to get through the day without drifting into the
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« Reply #108 on: July 10, 2008, 01:49 » |
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realms of thought and envisioning her lending me support through a kind word or upbeat jazzy tune. (The one from the end of ' Lisa's Sax ' is stuck in my head right now!) Sometimes I just have to think about a particular quote or episode of hers and I feel alot better. She is, to me, the pinnacle representation of the human condition if it is allowed to flourish. It is with Lisa as my inspiration that I can express my own budding creative side.
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Simply put, Lisa is not why I rise out of bed in the morning. Nay for she is the morning! My pure crystal dawn that allows me the freedom to face the day with optimism and hope and curiosity for the infinite possibilites that a newly rising sun promises!
I believe I may like it here, as this has been quite liberating.
Thank you for your attention.
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CalculatedChaos Well, let me be the first to say that that was quite a description of what Lisa means to you. It's also good to hear that this place has helped you express a little bit of what you've been going through. There are many people here who feel the same way that you do about Lisa being a figure of support, encouragement, and opportunity. It's good to have you here.
As an afterthought though, you might want to consider fitting all your thoughts into one post instead of posting separate messages... even though some posts tend to get a bit massive, it makes for a cleaner looking forum.
Edit: My bad, I didn't see you'd included another bit about length in one of your previous messages.
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Hehe well I for one feel it's okay and that the problem could probably be sorted, besides, it's good to see long posts, even if they're chopped up a little bit  Anyway, Welcome to LTS  Glad to hear you're finding it a help to express yourself here without worry ^_^
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CalculatedChaosI'm glad you liked the way people express them selves on this forum, this is what LTS was made for... I was sure those nice days were left in the past - lately, we don't see many nice posts around, but your appearance has given me a new hope for the better future  I agree about almost everything you said about your perception of Lisa... she means much for me too, sometimes less, sometimes more. There is a Lisa picture on the wall just above my bed - it makes me feel a bit happier every morning I wake up and see her. It's there for several years now, but still works... She is a great inspiration for people.
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Dag you shouldnt be so downhearted about the lack of Lisa related posts. Think of it like this: What has brought a group of great people together on a great forum which I think has matured into a good board with many interesting topics. LISA! I think this is a board where Lisa would love to be a member, as it is in her Honor that we have some great intellectual discussion and some just plain fun. I am sure she would find all the stuff on here interesting. Not all of it is about her, and if it was 100% about Lisa this board would die as people would run out of things to say. The range of topics is testiment to the leaders and the posters here. I love this place and I love the people here. We sometimes have our ups and downs like any place would. But people have left, and a lot have come back because of one thing. The great spirit here. We are the wood and Lisa is the glue that holds this place together. This board IS the ultimate tribute to the "Yellow Spikey Haired Little girl we all adore". 
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Well said! Hear, hear!
In an odd twist it was a recent episode of South Park that made the point that alot of imaginary characters have affected our lives even more than most real people do. Think about it. Doesn't that count for anything? Didn't Santa (for some of us) remind us vaguely to stick to the teachings of Jesus? Didn't Superman (or any superhero) ignite feelings of wonder for what was possible and a passion for social justice? On and on the list could stretch.
This is powerful stuff, folks.
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EmpethreeYou really couldn't have said it better. I agree that this board is a place where Lisa would very much like to be a member, and I've often said that Lisa would want members here to make intelligent conversation instead of talking only about her. Your analogy is spot on, too; Lisa is the glue that holds us all together. DagdamorThere is a Lisa picture on the wall just above my bed - it makes me feel a bit happier every morning I wake up and see her. It's there for several years now, but still works... That's good, and I'm sure it helps you to rise each morning. I used to have a Lisa picture in my room, not anymore now, however I do have a picture of someone that I love very much that's been sitting on my dresser for a few months now. If there's anything that can brighten our moods and make us feel at home, it's a picture of the one we love. CalculatedChaosHeh, an interesting point you make there. It's really funny how much these seemingly "harmless" things affect our brains. At a young age our minds are very vulnerable, and easily shaped by things, it's no wonder that such fictional childhood heroes like Superman or Santa Claus display traits that youth are expected to emulate. Meh, it's all dogma.
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A slightly more sinister take than I was shooting for. But, hell, Satan scared the crap out of me for years. Kept me walking the straight and narrow.
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Heh, an interesting point you make there. It's really funny how much these seemingly "harmless" things affect our brains.
That?s right. Lisa Simpson made me start playing the saxophone 8 years ago.  And about Superman - he made me always wonder what I would do with superpowers . no decent things I guess. 
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CargoOfDarknessLOL, of course.  *imagines Cargo flying around and bombing innocent people with water-bombs* But the said above still true... Lisa has made me like bluesy music (if only you knew which kind of music I listened before), made me pay at least some attention to environment, made me a vegetarian I guess. But also it was very nice to know we have something in common with her - for example, our feelings about animals, cats and horses especially.  Even knowing that Lisa is an imaginary character, she still affects me in a better way rather than some perfectly-real people do.
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I stopped having keyboard lessons because of a full schedule 2 years ago and recently I decided to learn another instrument, this time a wind instrument. Lisa made me choose the sax, although I still don't know how that's gonna work since I'll go to a boarding school after holidays... and I thought being a vegetarian wold be hard since I'm underweight, but Lisa made me think twice and google a little  ... agreed
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about Lisa and the nights of winter... again the sweet night and their memories are looming on my window ... I believe that my love is a sweet obsession ... melancholy in my room ... I need sleep with her ... 6 or 7 years ... oh God! the time flies and this love is long ... obsessions ... my desires and the reality ... relities? ... my girl is too far ... and too close ... I can almost feel her warm skin ... happiness in my bed! sweet dreams ... I am not ashamed ... anyway ... the most important thing is my own happiness ... (sleep with her tonight) must be a very pleasant feeling ... I think it should enjoy every moment ... my deep desire. solitude... goodnight ...
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I need sleep with her ... obsessions ... my desires and the reality ...
happiness in my bed! sweet dreams ... I am not ashamed ...
I think it should enjoy every moment ... my deep desire.
Excuse me? Do you have a wife or girlfriend called Lisa? Off-topic: May I have the picture you used for your avatar?
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@Cargo: "The poetry is only an expression of the soul ... its themes are subjective and ambiguous ... The true interpretation of the verse and prose is personal"
mean much to me .. for others .. means nothing I do not need to explain more about the theme... is just a : "because yes" ... Lisa is very important in my life... (do you remember the name of this thread ?  )
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CargoOfDarknessOne of those things you'd rather not know about Lisa, hm? 
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No offence, I was just wondering what all those lines really mean, because if they are metaphors... what do they mean? You are right, poetry is something everybody can see from his point of view and it hase a gigantic space for interpretation - but some of your lines really seem so "in your face" and direct that I am really curious what kind of feelings and what kind of meaning this little girl Lisa has to you... ... .... well... nothing only continent... uhm?
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...but some of your lines really seem so "in your face" and direct that I am really curious what kind of feelings and what kind of meaning this little girl Lisa has to you...
Hmmm.... I don't know ... I am very young as you (23 years) ... but I live in other culture... in other side of our world...  my style of life is a bit "different" , working between computers in the schools, my family, my daughter and the poetry circle in the university... I can't explain my feelings with Lisa... only I am "in love" be her help and smiles in my dark moments...in the past, in my present and maybe in the future... I can explain and talk about this with sincerity .... but I need learn to live... (the time flies... perhaps 10 years more)...
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@CCD!- No worries, my friend! You have no need to explain yourself. I sense only sweet innocence in your feelings for Lisa. Despite the 'dark times', she seems to be a very positive force in your life. (BTW, you have a daughter? Can I call you Homer?  Just kidding!)
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(BTW, you have a daughter? Can I call you Homer?  Just kidding!) hee hee.. she is only my little sister.. but karina says: daddy (long story)  ... anyway Thanks...you are right .. Lisa is a positive force in my life as the flames in a cold day.
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Heh, oops! That is exactly how I would phrase my feelings at their peak, Gustavo. When I first joined here I think I called her 'my pure crystal dawn'. (just on the last page actually) This is still true, she is a fantastic person to have in your corner!
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DANG i was of topic well here lisa with a face so bright and a shoe so tight with the gratest slight i ask you know now on the greatest night may you walk with me on a moon so light and there for i love you so tight.
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Hey so I'm writing an essay comparing between Lisa and Bart so I really would like some help guys! Really the only thing I need are some specific examples where Lisa is showing her morals...so if you can think of any episodes on the top of your head, that'd be greatly appreciated!
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Well, off the top of my head: The Old Man and the Lisa- She first refuses to help Burns regain his fortune, then turns down her cut of the profits from the sale of the factory. Lisa Gets An A- Her morals nearly cost the school the funding it qualifed for after she cheats on a test. Bart Sells His Soul- She buys Bart's soul, after Milhouse sells it to the comic book store, and helps him to understand what it means to have one before returning it.
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I've been digging through you guy's forums and conversations and picked out a couple of great examples. But as I'm going deeper in my essay I realize that I need two things now =P sorry for the trouble... 1.) Specific examples of Lisa showing her morals. 2.) Several (and I emphasize several) examples of Lisa helping and caring about Bart.
The one about Bart's soul is really good, I actually found that too in the Sibling rivalry forum too. So really any help with be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Oh, you want Bart/Lisa-specific examples: Krusty Gets Busted- She helps him to figure out the clues that lead to Sideshow Bob being implicated in framing Krusty. Like Father, Like Clown- She helps Bart reunite Krusty with his estranged rabbi father. Dead Putting Society- She helps Bart focus and train for the big Mini-Golf tournament. Bart on the Road- She secretly arranges (with Homer's help) to have Bart deliver a large crate containing his friends to Springfield when they get stranded.
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Kamp Krusty- She helps him take control of the camp. Itchy and Scratcy: The Movie- She emplores Homer to let Bart see the film because she doesn't like seeing him suffer and feels he's learned his lesson. Lisa's First Word- It turns out to be 'Bart', proving that she sees him as a huge part of her world. The Front- They team up to write new and better episodes of Itchy & Scratchy to save the show. (a weaker example, I'll admit)
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Krusty Gets Kancelled- She helps Bart convince celebrities to participate in Krusty's comeback special. Some Enchanted Evening- They work together (along with Maggie) to capture the dreaded Babysitter Bandit. Bart Gets An Elephant- She helps Bart decide what's best for Stampy. Bart of Darkness- After losing her faux-popularity to Martin Prince, Lisa feels guilty for neglecting Bart while his leg heals and agrees to help him investigate a possible murder at the Flanders' home.
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Bart's Girlfriend- She implicates Jessica Lovejoy when it becomes obvious she won't confess to stealing from the collection plate to clear Bart's (for once) innocent name. Girly Edition- She saves Bart from Groundskeeper Willy after realizing her mistake in setting him up in the first place. Other than those, just about every Sideshow Bob episode could qualify. These are just from the first 10 seasons. I hope that helps...  Also, are you interested in the situations where Bart helps Lisa?
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That list really brings back great memories.  Thanks for posting it! I need to watch the show again, its been too long. 
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« Reply #139 on: October 02, 2008, 11:36 » |
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It was a fun little project to scan the older seasons for those gems. There's nearly as many with Bart helping Lisa, I noticed. They struck a good balance. 
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« Reply #140 on: October 03, 2008, 21:56 » |
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Hey thanks a lot! I ended up using Old Man and Lisa and Dead Putting Society...can't tell you how much I appreciate it!
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« Reply #141 on: October 03, 2008, 22:08 » |
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Glad to be of service!  Here's hoping you pull that nearly impossible A+++!
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« Reply #142 on: October 11, 2008, 22:43 » |
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Actually it's four plusses.
Really, great list. Gotta watch Dead Putting Society (the name's already great.)
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« Reply #143 on: October 12, 2008, 00:02 » |
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Sorry for turning this topic somewhere in different direction, but I wanted to ask you something... One member of ISFF has linked one pretty old (if I'm not mistaken) picture on DeviantArt. http://angel-maxwell.deviantart.com/art/Lovely-Lisa-12173693Some of the comments about it have made me feel really confused... so tell me, do you see something wrong ot indecent in the picture?
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« Reply #144 on: October 12, 2008, 02:57 » |
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“Fat To… I mean, Dagdamor! It’s not important, what other people think of you. What matter’s how you feel inside”. © 
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« Reply #145 on: October 12, 2008, 05:20 » |
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Dagdamor Nothing about the comments really bothers me but I think I know what you mean. Some of the comments hint at sexually suggestive remarks, right? Comments like "((wow she ish hawt!)) Hawt"? All I can say is that the picture is mostly harmless, but whenever an artist makes a girl look good, guys will naturally comment in such a manner. Unfortunate, I know, but not surprising either.
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« Reply #146 on: October 12, 2008, 05:26 » |
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From what I gathered in the chat earlier, the offending remarks were made on Serge's Russian forum in reference to this picture (which is an awesome piece of fanart by the way). Though there seem to be some rather crude remarks on there as well...
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« Reply #147 on: October 13, 2008, 00:40 » |
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All I have to say is wow.... a fabulously drawn bit of fanart. Based on an equally fantastic fanfic.
I do not see it as sexual, but the picture IS designed to make Leese look elegant and beautiful, as is part of the fanfic, those who have read the fanfic will know the reactions in the fic.
This picture is not smutty, dirty or in any way indecent. It is just a well drawn picture of a beautiful young woman.
For those who have not read Full Life Wo Sagashite, i really do recommend it, even if you are not particularly into fanfic, in itself it is an extremely well written story. It is based on "Full Moon wo Sagashite"
It is really emotional and yet gripping. And it certainly left a mark on me! Now seeing this picture really makes this story all the more special.
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« Reply #148 on: October 13, 2008, 10:04 » |
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Hey, I commented on this  Was a long time ago by the looks of things... Anyway I completely agree with Empethree As for the..er...the indecent comments, well...you do get some creepy obsessives on DA that's for sure x_X who only care about one thing and somewhat feel any drawing of someone the opposite sex is "hawt",  I'm sure they put the male sex to shame O_o...(imo),... Though that's probably a bit harsh, but I definitely have seen worse comments around on drawings that aren't even sexual.....
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« Reply #149 on: October 13, 2008, 19:08 » |
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Its just the anonimous nature of the internet that makes the majority of guys perverts. There isnt anything wrong with the picture, its the people who interpret it in the way THEY want to see it. In the circles of the net I've strolled across (CS:S, Second Life, YouTube), I've very rarely found a guy who cared about brains over boobs. It would me sick, and embarassed to be among their pathetic half of the species; But my salvation is found by blokes such as the ones who visit this place who CAN look at a picture inteligently and see beauty the same way I do. So guys (who can read this), give yourself a pat on the back from me  We should feel good about being ourselves instead of 'them'. 
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« Reply #150 on: October 13, 2008, 22:11 » |
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I already told you, Dag, how I think about the pic. It fits the story pretty well, and this is why I don't think these guys have read it. (see "Pok?mon"). By the way, true words, Casper, and one reason why I still often read topics in this forum. (Usually I'm active in a forum for a week to three months, plus my own forum and one that I was in almost since I'm active in the usenet. But this is quite different. I think this shouldn't) be written in brackets  It's great to have this place, and all the people who contribute. But never forget that this is all just because of Matt Groening. </off topic>
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« Reply #151 on: October 14, 2008, 02:59 » |
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CasperSo guys (who can read this), give yourself a pat on the back from me  We should feel good about being ourselves instead of 'them'.  Cheers! 
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« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2008, 16:06 » |
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So, I think it's my turn to tell all of you, even if you already heard it all already, and many other guest who are too shy to register?  At the beginning or at my first view of the Simpsons I examined them as a whole. And from my first view I started to like them, in cause of their critics and the satiric elements. It was and is nearly the one and only programme which is worth of being watched. At that time already she affirmatively stood out to me. So, I think it begun then, it wasn't love at first blush, but a steady fall into it, like a fly that slide into the corrosive substance of a Sarracenia purpurea and cannot escape - in my case - I didn't want to escape but devote myself to her. I didn't notice how I already liked her until I started to study her, to collect pictures related to her and think of her much of my time. Then I started to think what she would say or do in many situations, I think of her like..., like a lighthouse which shows you the right and well way even if the sea is roaring. As I had to give up my circle of friends in my infancy twice, likely I built a wall - not that I'm not already introverted enough. But she managed to break that wall and thereby get a "seat in my heart". After that I nominate her to my heroine, to my antetype, so I tried it with jazz, because I hadn't had my favourite music yet, and I'm bound to say I enjoy it and experience my days better then before. Every day become something special with jazz - and Lisa of course. Then, after this well experience, I tried Buddhism too, and what do you think...? I found my religion. They're many feelings and wishes which I share with her. She help my to find and define myself. I was always interested in art or some classic music or science but didn't notice that well, didn't pursue them. She really expanded my awareness. She show me that there are so many well things on our earth and now I can really say - I'm glad to be here. 
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« Reply #153 on: November 30, 2008, 08:18 » |
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In recent months, I have continued to find solace in this show. With the new season kicking into full swing I am feeling more and more inspired to write another story. The only thing stopping me at the moment is my complete lack of time; as I work 60 hours a week nowadays. Perhaps I can return to my passion more fully once the holidays are over and I don't have to worry about money so much.
But that doesn't mean I will be leaving here. My love for Lisa has never dwindled and my statements from a few pages back are as true now as they were back then. Sometimes she's the only thing that gets me through a particularly rough day.
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« Reply #154 on: June 18, 2009, 22:28 » |
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ho0la, so0i de mexico y me gustaria saber co0mo0 funciona esta paggiiinaa??
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« Reply #155 on: July 12, 2009, 18:18 » |
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karina... Didn't you color one of Gustavo's pics? Well, bienvenido en LTS, anyway!  upd btw, Gustavo - nice avatar 
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« Reply #156 on: July 20, 2009, 14:50 » |
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nop she is other girl with the same name n___n opps, just coincidence... because karina is in reality my little sister... Really? Nice to hear that  And again - welcome to LTS, karina. Glad to see you here… the guy of the avatar is nikola tesla a guy that I admire ^__^... I know the person... I think the same about this scientist. He's a genious, a man from future - the THOR god in the flesh!  He predicted and described our future and he could realise the rest of his yet and never finished ideas [for example, using a wire for sending multimedia] and bring the future much earlier, if not the envious persons and absence of good sponsors to finance the building of his projects.
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« Reply #157 on: August 17, 2009, 22:26 » |
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My feelings about Lisa are pretty the same that many people here. First of all, I'm actually in love of Lisa. But it's a very particular kind of love. Since I started to watch the Simpsons intensely, I was interested at once in this more complex character. [Just for say : when I was on L's age, I had many common points with her : the smart and unpopular child. Later during my college's year, occurred some events which I'll not explain here. These events made me what I didn't want to become. I began to work less and I become an average student. Now, the situation improved a little, but I miss cruelly confidence in me.] So, about Lisa, I discovered rather quickly that I had sentiments with her and I worried a little about that. I “rejected” these feelings at start. But, unconsciously, they grew up : the observation passed to admiration, which passed to love. Secondly, what I respect and so I admire on Lisa's personage is her intelligence and the fact that she knows how to use it (with hard-work and perseverance), her strength and her courage in life, her convictions, her immense culture, her sense of the responsibility and her perfect morality. Moreover, her childishness, her innocence and her purity make her totally cute and adorable (how do not fall under her charm ?  ). Besides, Lisa highlights the best of myself. In fact, Lisa represents the “perfect human being” and I am very far from it. She is the lantern lighting the road of the success. Today, I'm following this road. And , well, so far so good.  Now I have all the time a little voice in me ; She comforts me when I's sad, she encourage me when I fatigue, I feel her presence when I feel lonely... She inspires me a lot too. Now she is my indispensable source of spirit energy (renewable of curse  ). Naturally, if Lisa needs help, I'm ready to help her.  To conclude, I quote from Gustavo who explains splendidly this feeling : one always finds the love…  he is not a personage. nor in a person… the love is in whom helps you to be the best one to be human…. in whom helps you to understand the life… the love no is a kiss or a hug… the love is "reborn" feniz and a new glance… I totally agree with this. However : It's a bit hard to explain that with words. So I hope my speech was not too confused. Thanks for reading and sorry for my (abysmal) English. -Alexis-
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« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2009, 02:52 » |
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However : It's a bit hard to explain that with words. So I hope my speech was not too confused. no worries, I can understand you, just enjoy the freedom of the love,... LTS is a good place to talk about this, in special this thread n__n ... lisa (or any woman in this world) is a light that bright in the solitude of the mens like we.. and this bright high!  , not as adoration, but if like a vehicle to transform our own life , and to take this with optimism... (of course that the dream of any men is that our lover is waiting by us)... this send a message to continue with life... because without love does not exist a motive to continue with life... of course that the concept of love is big, and can talk about the family, a girl, or a ideal... lisa is a special example, because she does not exist, and this world, is like the moon to a wolf or the musa to a poet  but if... is a powerful flame if you open the heart to the "ideal love" .... to me , to you , or to any boy in love by her, she exist! because we can create life.... **************** to any lisalover this feeling exist since the beggining of the times... just remember the legend of Pygmalion, maybe sounds a bit stranger in our society, but is real... ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Falconet_-_Pygmalion_%26_Galatee_(1763).jpg) of course that the "real feelings" about her , or any lover is a personal theme, that play always in the dangerous limit of the obsession, but is good remember the real motive of falls in love ... is just find the best part of our soul ... of course that our human nature is erotical too, this energy is the beggining of the art, the science, does not bad fells this feelings sometimes... talking about these limits is good know the the concept of freedom does no exist... I can say: I am free! , but is impossible, as say Luis Cernuda: "la libertad de vivir preso en alguien" , just read this poem... If a man could say what he loves Luis Cernuda If a man could say how much he loves, if a man could raise his love in the sky like a cloud in the light; if like falling walls, in order to salute the truth, straightened in the middle, he could plunge his body headlong, leaving just the truth about his love, the truth about himself, which is not called glory, nor fortune, nor ambition, but if love or desire, I would be the one who imagined; the one who, with his tongue, his eyes and his hands, proclaims in front of the men the ignored truth, the truth about his true love. Freedom I do not know but the freedom of being imprisoned in anybodywhose name I cannot hear without chill; someone for whom I forget this mean existence, for whom the day and the night are for me whatever he wants, and my body and spirit float in his body and spirit like lost logs that the sea submerges or raises freely, with the freedom of love, the only freedom that exalts me, the only truth for which I die.You justify my existence: if I do not meet you, I haven't lived; if I die without meeting you, I don't die, because I haven't lived..... I am agreed with the words of this poet... maybe you too...  our stranger nature is so beautiful, because in the humans the love can live in a lot of ways.... ...if you are in love by her, you can feel proud of this.... because the love is the most powerful energy that we can create... just take care  ******** Io nella vita ho fatto un po' di tutto non so se ho fatto poco oppure tanto non sono stato un santo e questo lo sa pure Dio lo sa pure Dio... Ho camminato con la pioggia e il vento ho riso spesso e qualche volta ho pianto e cento e mille volte son rimasto solo io e me la son cavata sempre a modo mio... A modo mio a modo mio che tu ci creda o no a modo mio... a modo mio a modo mio avrò sbagliato ma a modo mio... E tu che sei comparsa tutt'a un tratto e in un momento hai colorato tutto!!!  tu sei diversa sei importante ed ho paura io ho paura io... e chissà se ci riuscirò a dirti che ti amo a modo mio... A modo mio a modo mio per una volta ancora a modo mio... a modo mio a modo mio poi sei venuta tu amore mio!!!...  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cftLFPMFnlU) this lyrics are perfect to talk about "she" (you know who  ) in a future, in our last years, after of finish "our travel" ... the message is sweet and peaceful... a old song... and I remember a lot of stories in the moment of hear this song... sorry by the lenguage, but I only know the version un spanish and italian, in the voice of Claudio Baglioni and Gianni Nazarri. but you know... all is "per lei"  , "by her"..., "por ella"., "для нее", "für ihre", awwie, per lisa attraverso i nostri sentimenti...  .
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to love you I need a reason and it's difficult to believe that no other exists than this love there is so much left inside this heart and although they say that the years are wise pain is still felt... because all of the time that i spent with you... has left it's thread woven throught me?... And i learned to take from the time the seconds that you let me see heaven more profoundly i believe that i put on more thatn 3 kg from the sweet kisses that you gave me!!! you developed my sense of smell, and it was for you that i learned to love cats you freed my shoes from the cement so we could escape to fly for a while but you forgot one last detail... because i don't know how to live without your love I discovered tha meaning of a rose you taught me how tell white lies so i could see you in forbidden hours and how to replace words with gazes it was for you that i wrote than 100 songs i even forgave your mistakes i got to know 1000 ways of kissing and i was for you that i discovered ... ...what it is to love!... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgR5kf9qyOI
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« Reply #160 on: November 10, 2009, 09:25 » |
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im not in 'love' with Lisa... but like all my fave characters i can imagine shes always there...
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.. now... with almost 6 years thinking in you (officially) ... tomorrow is a cute day... yes... I would talk a lot about it, but prefer say: "thank you for existing!!!" .... GRACIAS POR EXISTIR!!!! me has salvado la vida... renaci en ti, y gracias a ello soy otra persona, me haces sentir orgulloso, fuerte y optimista ante los problemas de mi vida! , eres quizas lo mas bello que mis ojos hallan contemplado... me has ayudado a cuidar de mi familia y de quienes amo, de encontrar a tantas personas aqui y en otros lugares... eres realmente y junto al Dios que adoramos la luz de mi pequeño mundo  Spanish
Como comenzamos yo no lo se la historia que no tiene fin ni como llegaste ser la mujer que toda la vida pedi Contigo hace falta passion y un toque de poesia y sabiduria pues yo trabajo con fantasias Recuerdas el dia que te cante fue un subito escalofrio por si no lo sabes te lo dire yonunca deje de sentirlo Contigo hace falta passion no debe de fallarnos tambien maestria pues yo trabajo con el corazon Cantar a la noche no bastara es poco para mi si quiero decirte que nunca habra cosa mas bella que tu cosa mas linda que tu unica como eres imensa cuando quieres gracias por existir Como comenzamos yo no lo se la historia que toca su fin que es ese misterio que no se fue lo llevo aqui dentro de mi Seran los recuerdos que no no dejan pasar la edad seran las palabras pues yo sabras mil trabajos amor Cantar con amor ya no bastara es poco para mi si quiero decirte que nunca habra cosa mas bella que tu cosa mas linda que tu unica como eres imensa cuando quieres gracias por existir Cosa mas bella que tu cosa mas linda que tu unica como eres imensa cuando quieres gracias por exisitir Gracias por existir cosa mas bella que tu que tu gracias por existir
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com’è cominciata io non saprei la storia infinita con te che sei diventata la mia lei di tutta una vita per me ci vuole passione con te e un briciolo di pazzia ci vuole pensiero perciò lavoro di fantasia
ricordi la volta che ti cantai fu subito un brivido sì
ti dico una cosa se non la sai per me vale ancora così
ci vuole passione con te, non deve mancare mai ci vuole mestiere perché lavoro di cuore lo sai
cantare d’amore non basta mai, ne servirà di più per dirtelo ancora per dirti che più bella cosa non c’è più bella cosa di te unica come sei immensa quando vuoi grazie di esistere...
com’è che non passa con gli anni miei la voglia infinita di te, cos’è quel mistero che ancora sei che porto qui dentro di me
saranno i momenti che ho quegli attimi che mi dai saranno parole però lavoro di voce lo sai
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how did it start, i dont know, my endless story with you you’ve become my girl for all my life for me there is passion with you and little bit of madness i care for you and work on fantasy
remember the time when i sang for you it made us shiver
i tell you one thing if you dont know it for me its still that way
there is passion with you it will never be missed there is knowledge because i work from the heart you know
singing about love is never enough it will use me to tell you still to tell you that there is nothing more beautiful more beautiful than you unique like you are endless when you want it thank you for existing
how is it possible that with the years my infinite desire wont go away what is this mistery that you are that i take here inside me
could be the momets that i have those moments you give to me could be the words but i work with my voice you know
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Did anybody have seen the last episode (s21e06) where Lisa have said so naughty 'Lo-o-oser!' at Bart's new fellow? I'm just curious why she did that? Maybe because of some kind of envy? No, at first that was clearly a trick to drive wild Bart (and so she did at Homer's address). But after that she became a way too strict to guys in my sight. That was something different of Lisa's usual manner, don't you think? Does she now taking a delight from jeering at her brother and his good-for-nothing friend?
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Good question, I was wondering the same. I think it's an approach of the writers to make her more child-like again. This somewhat continues in the latest episode (S21E07) where she's acting according to her age over pretty much the whole episode.
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I thought it was very natural. Annoying your brothers and sisters is a god-given right and duty of all siblings. Once you lock in on a phrase or sound that drives your siblings insane you must repeat it ad nauseum, savouring and wallowing in their anger and frustration ^.^
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« Reply #165 on: December 03, 2009, 19:01 » |
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That was something different of Lisa's usual manner, don't you think? Does she now taking a delight from jeering at her brother and his good-for-nothing friend? Actually, while it differs from the way Lisa has been written in recent years, it's much closer to her character in the early seasons of the show. I think it's a positive move on the part of the writers as Lisa's character (among others...) from the Scully era onwards, has been lacking in the depth and realism that she used to have.
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« Reply #166 on: December 24, 2009, 14:40 » |
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The truth is, Lisa is one of my favourite, if not my favourate character from The Simpsons. I love the way she is true to what she believes, even if she is radical about it at times. She is the character behind what the Simpsons has to say about world issues, philosophy and ethics, the main reason I love the show so much. She also has the perfect mix between a mature gifted child and the normal personality of an 8 year old girl. I also respect the fact that she remains the way she is despite all the demean she recieves from the people around her. Way to go Lisa, never change the way you are.
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« Reply #167 on: March 04, 2010, 03:52 » |
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I'm not sure if it's just me, but did anyone else feel disturbed by the scene in 'The Color Yellow' were Elisa gives in to Cornel Burns. I know it wasn't really lisa, but it really haunted me.
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« Reply #168 on: March 09, 2010, 13:19 » |
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That was sort of the point. Look at how it haunted poor Lisa (and Eliza in that film).
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« Reply #169 on: March 10, 2010, 07:00 » |
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What I was saying is that it worked really well, the emotion worked worked better than it did in alot of other episodes.
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« Reply #170 on: March 10, 2010, 08:01 » |
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But the basic plot was still pretty much stolen from Family Guy.
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« Reply #171 on: March 10, 2010, 09:00 » |
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But the basic plot was still pretty much stolen from Family Guy.
Well not that scene anyway. On a really high level I guess your right - if you described the episode in one sentence they would be the same. It isn't that similar when you watch it though. Family guy just pretty much says they have a black ancestor and then makes a bunch of jokes about what it means in the present with the rest of the episode. Whereas the Simpsons explored the past in depth and only at the end reveals that they have a black ancestor. Quite different really even basically.
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« Reply #172 on: March 11, 2010, 07:39 » |
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The family discovers they have a black ancestor which, during flashbacks throughout the episode it is revealed the white ancestor looks exactly like the wife of the family and a black version of the husband. Alternate designs on the kids too, but they are present. At one point during the episode the modern day family expresses their happiness at said black ancestor and exclaim "Now I know why..." Or some derivative thereof. It's pretty darn close and I'm rather disappointed they went ahead with the plan. The actual episode was alright but I couldn't get that thought out of my head the entire time it was on.
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« Reply #173 on: March 11, 2010, 09:48 » |
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yeah to tell you the truth I can't really remember the Family guy episode very well, it was a long time ago. If it is as you say, then yes I am disappointed in the writers lack of imagination.
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« Reply #174 on: July 23, 2010, 03:32 » |
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heh, I always am trying of erase this story, (believe me) always trying work a lot, drinking or talking with other woman searching a similar flame... but is impossible... I live by her...
don't ask the motive. i don't know ... i just know that these feelings is more strongest with every day..
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