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« on: November 30, 2007, 17:32 »

I don't know why I'm posting this, or why here,..but after something that happened to me today it made me question myself quite a bit...
I dunno what I'm really wanting back on this and I'm sorry if it just seems like I'm venting, or being immature,..but it makes me question a lot of things like respect for other people, controlling anger, and when something is taken just too far?... Confused

Okay, so today I was on a workshop thing in my school rather than doing lessons, was about interviews, goal setting etc..
The room we used was a year 10 forum (year 10's about ages 14-15), technically, they were supposed to have been moved into a different room, this was made clear at the start of the day that they weren't to be back in that room during break or lunch...
However after break when my friend and I headed back to the room there were a few girls in there, just the "chavy" lot.

(If anyone here doesn't understand what I mean by this term, cos it's British but many do know by now, just search wiki Wink)

The room was in a bit of a state compared to how it was in the morning, and despite the "please put your rubbish in the bin" sign, our table was covered in pink fluffy bags, and half eaten sandwiches and litter in general,..and smelt pretty bad too x_x...
However they were meant to have been out of the room by then,..so we just walked in but kept to the side so they could leave...
But, all of a sudden I felt a hand push against my back, some blonde bimbo had pushed me rather rudely out of her way and shouted back to me in a snarky voice "excuse me",..like she was the most important thing in the world and I should have noticed her behind me wanting to get round me the long way.  She picked the wrong day to push me, an I angrily mumbled back (I hope you guys excuse me for this..)
"Have some respect you bitch..." I said the last bit a little too loud I think, as one of her friends heard and repeated what I said to her,..then her and her friends gave me evils, and she ranted back to me, saying how I was ugly, and I shouldn't call her that,..etc etc O_o
Before they could turn back and walk towards me though the teacher had come back in so they had to go...
Luckily I didn't bump into them for the rest of the day...

But after that, I felt a LOT of anger, I was shaking...for at least 15 minutes after...
Not cos I was really offended by what they said about me but it was their attitude that caused me to become mad...I don't think I'd have had the cheek to speak up to a 6th former student or a teacher back when I was younger...I've never considered myself as a rude person, I'm usually polite and civil towards people (However I dunno, maybe I was in the wrong and immature myself for insulting the girl but part of me felt she deserved it, I wouldn't have said it otherwise if she was polite....)

So dunno,..maybe I'm just reacting but really does make me wonder about the younger generations respect for elders,...I'm not saying all of them don't have it but there seems to be a large majority now, you hear in the media a lot too about how elderly or middle age people are beaten up, murdered, "happy slapped" etc...sometimes for no reason whatsoever by these yobs....
I guess I'm starting to ramble and this is starting to link into a topic posted a while back about violence, murders etc Embarrassed

So sorry if this is me just wasting space or anything Embarrassed but its just been on my mind since and making me question the future and upbringing of the next generations...if they're being taught to have any respect at all if it is just me over reacting and not showing respect myself Embarrassed.....

I'll shut up now :x...

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 17:52 »

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"Have some respect you b..ch"? Whoa, Rach, you really said that to her? Eek
I'm probably showing a very wrong example right now, but wow! This is something I could never do in my younger ages. Gigi OK, I think you overreacted there, but I'm still jealous to you because I never had strength to shout back at a person who bugged or bothered me.

I wouldn't stretch that situation to the extents of the "young respecting the elder" thing. Don't want to sound rude, but you're not 40 year-old woman yet, you are all young there! And even judging on 40 year olds, far not all of them know what the word "respect" means. I'd prefer to look calmly at such situations. Try to forgive the person who started all this, and calm down. Smile
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 18:34 »

Wow, Rach, you let her know what you were feeling, didn't you? Eek
I'll have to agree with Dagdamor here... wow! I remember myself doing something similar to someone like that about two years ago, but they completely deserved it!:red:
My cousin also had an experience like this too, except it kept going and going.
If she had that tone where she thought you were in her way because she thought she was almighty and ran into you hard enough, I don't think that it's that big of a deal. Infact, she shouldhave atleast apologized! I mean com on, even if it was or wasn't her fault, an apology somewhere would have been nice.

I don't think that the "respect your elders" thing would really apply to something like this. If you kept going, maybe... but I think you're fine.
And Dag's right, not every 40 year old is the most respectable pick-of-the-lot.
I say just forget about what happened, and calm down. It's all over and through now. Smile

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 18:39 »

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Case dismissed. Smile NO reason to feel angry about such people, they'll eat their fair share of anger in life due to their own disrespect and shallowness... the few people that manage to go through despite this attitude are well, really few (and they're all on the news anyway).
Yeah, respect (not young-elder respect but people to people one) is being thrown out of the window, it's "uncool", and it makes me mad too to see and hear such things. You can either play by the rules or not play at all... but since they can change the rules at their own will, i'd say it's a game not worth playing.

Sadly to say, but you have to swallow down the anger sometimes, unless you know you have a fair chance of gettign back to said people without being know. I know, it's sneaky and unfair, but it gets the job done. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 19:37 »

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Yeah, respect (not young-elder respect but people to people one) is being thrown out of the window, it's "uncool", and it makes me mad too to see and hear such things. You can either play by the rules or not play at all... but since they can change the rules at their own will, i'd say it's a game not worth playing.
Yep. Younger generations show less and less respect towards others these days. I'm not sure it's "uncool", but, sadly, it happens.

And I have to say you did the right thing there. If someone else doesn't show any respect, they don't deserve it either.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 21:07 »

Sometimes these "chavs" need to be shown respect so in some way I agree with the reaction. It usually means it got to them when they suddenly revert to childish name calling bacause they cannot think of anything to say intelligent back. Sometimes I used to snap when these types try it on and i am one of the sit in the corner quietly types.


However, sometimes you need to take a step back, so i not saying it was right and wrong, some of these types need to be shown how to respect.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 21:07 »

 Embarrassed Okay, I'm sorry guys, maybe it was a bad idea x_x I shouldn't let anger and frustration get the better of me Sad
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"Have some respect you b..ch"? Whoa, Rach, you really said that to her? Eek
I'm probably showing a very wrong example right now, but wow! This is something I could never do in my younger ages. Gigi OK, I think you overreacted there, but I'm still jealous to you because I never had strength to shout back at a person who bugged or bothered me.

I did say that,...(sorry x_X), but tbh I didn't exactly shout, I muttered however it was still too loud and they heard X( Which I didn't really intend for them to hear, just for my friend to hear...I was angry with them though....Usualy I wouldn't have the stength to show it till after they had clearly gone but it just slipped out before I could stop myself  Confused
And as for being 40 years old? yeah fair enough, but just using it as an example really of an average age I guess, though I suppose its any age really that people can be treated with disrespect for no real reason and I was pushed out the way rather harshly before the girl said a thing to me so I had no idea I was in her way, there was a gap in front of me though that she could have easily fitted through...

Sorry...Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 21:09 »

i personally dont think there is any need to apologise to us, i think all of us here have done something in anger at times. Smile
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 21:10 »

You don't need to be sorry, your reaction was totally comprehensible and sometimes we cannot do anything to avoid from letting our anger out. Big Grin
It's best like this than to keep everything inside and explode when it's too much, maybe with someone that doesn't really deserve. Smile So, do not worry about this.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2007, 23:37 »

"Have some respect you bitch"

Well Rach, you certainly let her off easily. I would've given her a damn verbal flogging. But that's just me...

I don't think you really overreacted, I just think you've not been exposed to enough of humanity. Pretty soon you learn that our race is nothing more than a bunch of lazy assholes who think they're "all that". I hardly associate with people anymore, they're just not worth it. No one respects each other anymore, and there's nothing you can really do about these people. It frustrated me endlessly trying to understand them, trying to find a way through, until I finally gave up.

All I can say is welcome to humanity.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2007, 01:50 »

All Right Rachel, For me this a big one. All I can say is good job. I personally wouldn't have stopped there, but then I am a bit on the side of hostile when I hear young kids sit there and act up to their elders, even if they are only 5 or 6 years difference. My little step-brother trys it sometimes when he is with me, all I do is smack him on the head or across the mouth when he does. He has learned not to do so and I make sure that he doesn't do it ever. I dont see any reason that you should apologize for anything you said.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2007, 01:58 »

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As a parent to a child, or a teacher to a student is one thing. Though I find that sometimes five or six years difference is not such a big thing, as long as both people are considered "mature" ages.

Especially if the "elder" is the immature one.

Although I'm sure this doesn't apply to Rach's situation.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2007, 12:40 »

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I forgive you completely Rach, but I reserve the right to remember this topic in our chats from now on. Big Grin
Seriously, such things happen... they can happen to everyone. Thanks for the interesting topic anyway Wink
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 10:08 »

She pushed you? Wow... next time I hope I'm there.

Firstly, I dont blame the generation of children/teenagers for being so abusive and lacking respect. Let me put it this way; at least 10 years ago, if a teenager had underage sex and ended up pregnant, society would rip them appart. Its a deterence.
These days, because of 'human rights' and other stupid do-gooders who want to be famous by talking shit, the government decided to advertise condoms as a means of having underage sex without the risk of pregnancy.
This might sound like I'm barking up the wrong tree, but what this means is that children are NOT being told whats wrong anymore, but being told ways of doing things wrong without getting caught. And, for a political party, I personaly think thats worse than bombing innocent family's in the middle east.

Rachel, I am proud of what you said. You stood up for yourself. And as somebody who knows you as well as I do, I know you are one of the finest examples of a well brought up person. Somebody who actualy works hard, and still has time to talk to her friends on MSN and LTS in a civil mannor. Thats a better skill in life, than a PhD. Full stop.
And some chav thinks she has the right to push you out of her way? Its the other way around. Everything in your whispered sentance was justified. She had no respect, and she was indeed, a bitch.

Your a higher class of human being, a damn lot of people who use this forum are in fact. So you cant listen to these, animals and take it to heart. They've never been taught 'No' (take Pete for example).

So to answer the question, you shouldnt be so angry. You should be proud your YOU, and not one of them. A lot of people at your stage in life, would really like to have the massive amount of choice you have as a future simply because, you earned it legitimatly. Everytime somebody calls you names, or shows you no respect, its one more person who you are 'above' in life. You dont have to say anything back, they'll realise when your earning £,£££'s more than them, living happy. Because money, and emotion, are the only two things they really understand.


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I neglected to mention, speaking up for yourself when theres only one of you, and plenty of them, is very intimidating. Thats why I'm so proud that you did so, even if it was quietly.
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