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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2008, 12:05 »

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Well, was VG20 a troll or not, let everyone decide. To me he was, because meaningless replies like "no shit", "source plox", "O RLY?", "its fallicious" etc aren't replies at all to me - those are just a silly way to shut up someone who's saying something you don't like or don't agree. If he had any valid arguments to respond, he'd post them. The only "valid" one was a link he just copied to the thread (without own comments), and I already replied to that link. If you didn't understand yet: that article was a silly fake, initially aired by Saakashvili and his propaganda, and stupidly repeated by western mass-media. Today, when the fact of it being a fake has opened widely, almost all mass-media stopped repeating it. You must be a fool to continue believing it when it has been proven to be a fake, when nobody else believes. The same applies to the "video" VG20 has linked; did you watch it? Do you realize that it's a video entitled "Gory being bombed" with NO BOMBING in it?

Now you try to hide behind all those big words about patriotism and nationalism. Be a patriot, be a nationalist if you like, I don't care, but the only thing I want from you here is to be an intellectual person. Blindly believing every shit your mass-media shows to you is not a patriotism, it's a stupidity. Like I said in the beginning of this thread, I see a lot of propaganda coming from our channels too. This doesn't mean I have to believe everything, right? What I posted were mere facts, without any political interpretation. And they were gathered not from TV, I assure you. Here, we have better sources for real facts rather than TV set. Which sources you have there in US - I don't know.
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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2008, 12:42 »

The thread did not get too much out of hand, but i ask both Dagdamor and Vg20 (and G.H. too) to try, as most as possible, to keep to a neutral ground for discussion and don't judge each others ideas personally, to avoid anger becoming the lead argument :\
I'm still wondering if to close this thread, all depends on how it will go on.

By the way, GH, if you go and read my post back, I never said VG20 was a troll, but i did think he was rude and offensive in his barging in acting all sarcastic all of a sudden, and i asked him to change his ways because such kind of attitude toward others is not healthy to the board. Especially if your first post on it is on that tone: i did it for him, to avoid him being "labeled" wrongly for all his permanence on this board.
I admit i made a mistake with the spelling jab, it was a low blow, and i apologized and explained myself to him in PM.

Now i hope the personal fights are over, and i hope that if the discussion goes on, it will steer clear from using name-calling or bad-mouthing to support opinions.
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2008, 16:50 »

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Well, was VG20 a troll or not, let everyone decide. To me he was, because meaningless replies like "no shit", "source plox", "O RLY?", "its fallicious" etc aren't replies at all to me - those are just a silly way to shut up someone who's saying something you don't like or don't agree.

No, if I said 'go fuck yourself, you rooski bastard' that would be trolling. Saying 'no shit' in response to 'Georgia is not part of the USA' is not trolling.


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If he had any valid arguments to respond, he'd post them. The only "valid" one was a link he just copied to the thread (without own comments), and I already replied to that link.

That 'reply' did nothing to refute my comments. Other than to go 'Nuh uhh youre wrong'

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If you didn't understand yet: that article was a silly fake, initially aired by Saakashvili and his propaganda, and stupidly repeated by western mass-media. Today, when the fact of it being a fake has opened widely, almost all mass-media stopped repeating it. You must be a fool to continue believing it when it has been proven to be a fake, when nobody else believes. The same applies to the "video" VG20 has linked; did you watch it? Do you realize that it's a video entitled "Gory being bombed" with NO BOMBING in it?

First of, it wasnt called Gori being bombed. Second its 'Gori'. Third, you havent provided any proof to your claim that it was a fake report by Georgias leader.


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Now you try to hide behind all those big words about patriotism and nationalism. Be a patriot, be a nationalist if you like, I don't care, but the only thing I want from you here is to be an intellectual person. Blindly believing every shit your mass-media shows to you is not a patriotism, it's a stupidity. Like I said in the beginning of this thread, I see a lot of propaganda coming from our channels too. This doesn't mean I have to believe everything, right? What I posted were mere facts, without any political interpretation. And they were gathered not from TV, I assure you. Here, we have better sources for real facts rather than TV set. Which sources you have there in US - I don't know.

First of all I'm British. Second, You have suceeded in missing my point entirely. You accuse me of beleiving everything the media tells me when you spout the same friggin garbage that Vladimir 'Stalin Lite' Putin has been spouting about Georgias 'genoside' against South Ossetia? And where the flying fuck are we in the West going to get or infomation from short of going to Georgia and asking them?
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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2008, 16:54 »

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Yeah I got you and Serge mixed up in that post, I went back and fixed the name though.

Dagdamor
Give it a rest will you? You can't keep claiming everything is a fake just because you don't want to believe it.
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« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2008, 17:09 »

I see that once again nobody tried to respect my pleas for keeping the tones of the discussion down.
And since this is turninig into Vanguard and GH versus Serge, and i see absolutely no "open-ness" from either side, just swearwords and angry remarks, i'm locking the thread down.

Vanguard20, you're officially warned, if you want to stay on this forum i don't care what are your political views, but change your tones and show politeness and respect, i ask this for the third time. The same goes for George Harrison (you're an older member, but it's not the first time i asked you to be less aggressive) and Dagdamor (Dag, you're even an admin, understand that the good mood of the forum should come before your personal "satisfaction").

For the rest there's mails , PMs, or completely different boards, thank you.
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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2008, 17:10 »

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Heck, you don't even know what's the name of our president... I'm out. This is the ignorance itself.
Don't try to prove me you're not a troll anymore, with your constant "fucks" you just did the opposite.

About proofs: Your own video, the one you linked, shows that the town wasn't bombed! What kind of proofs you need if you can't see even that? Where are the bodies, where are civilian victims you was talking about earlier? Where are traces of bombing? Where are traces of fire? How can I prove you that the town is safe if you watched the video showing that it's safe, and don't understand that only because the title says the opposite?
Maybe you need proofs that all those fakes are made by Georgian administration? Think a bit, who else would need them?

G.H.
Give it a rest will you? You can't keep claiming every fake a "truth" just because you want to believe it.


UPD: Sorry Marco, when I was posting this, the thread was still open. I will delete the reply if needed :/
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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2008, 20:34 »

OK since Marco cloed the last thread because there was too much swearing apparently. Rolls Eyes Lets try to be civil this time.


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Heck, you don't even know what's the name of our president... I'm out. This is the ignorance itself.
Don't try to prove me you're not a troll anymore, with your constant "fucks" you just did the opposite.

Your President is Dimitri Medeyev (sp) and your Prime Minister is Vladimir Putin.
Excuse me for getting them mixed up. And constant fucks? I said fuck like once in that entire post!

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About proofs: Your own video, the one you linked, shows that the town wasn't bombed! What kind of proofs you need if you can't see even that? Where are the bodies, where are civilian victims you was talking about earlier?

It was showing the *aftermath* you think people just stand around with camcorders recording their city getting bombed?



 
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Where are traces of bombing? Where are traces of fire?

 So debris-srewn streets arnt enogh proof that a city has been bombed?
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How can I prove you that the town is safe if you watched the video showing that it's safe, and don't understand that only because the title says the opposite?
Maybe you need proofs that all those fakes are made by Georgian administration? Think a bit, who else would need them?

You have yet to prove that it was faked by Georgia.

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Give it a rest will you? You can't keep claiming every fake a "truth" just because you want to believe it.

I am rubber you are glue, everything you say bounces of me and sticks to you.


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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2008, 20:48 »

First time this has ever been done... seems this topic has really gone far.

I'm not opposed to being civil, but it seems like this whole ordeal has gone beyond that. I would've been content to leave things as they are, but... I have to say, Vanguard is right again. This whole thing is not staged. And Serge, you're the only member here who came out and openly said that the links provided were fake, so don't act like you have the backing of the entire board.
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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2008, 20:51 »

STOP IT.


If i see a single word about this again, i'll stop talking and start banning, i am dead tired.
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