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« on: June 03, 2008, 19:49 »

Everywhere here we have threads that is dedicated to love to Lisa. But what can you say on the only one question: how could you react if Lisa would be extremely angry at you? And how could you do if she never supposed to forgive you?
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 22:34 »

Not many answers, huh? Big Grin
Lisa can get very angry only because of her beliefs. And I almost share those with her, so I'll explain how I'd behave if Lisa was a little angry at me:
I'd honestly ask her of the exact reason of her anger, and if she couldn't explain it I'd tell her to calm down, maybe play the sax, until she finds the right words. Because I'm ready to accept the opinions of others, and she'd understand since she has similar traits. And I think she'd then forgive me.

I've needed 15minutes for that text cause I really tried to imagine such a situation. Oh now it's re-submit  Gigi
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 18:27 »

Has the initial post been edited? seemed longer yesterday... Smile

Anywho, what can i say, it's hard to imagine such a situation because, of course, me and i'm sure a lot of other fans would like to think that Lisa is completely and utterly in agreement with all our quircks and defects and understands us.
Sadly, that wouldn't be very realistic. I'm sure i'd manage to get Lisa very angry at me in many ways, many times. :\ I have all sots of traits she wouldn't cope well with, honestly.
How would i react if she would have to yell at me because of that? Hm... i'd feel devastated for sure, but to say the truth, it wouldn't last long. Lisa is young and full of hopes and dreams, and it's understandable she'd like people to be either good or bad. Smile I'd try to make her understand that it's almost neve true, everyone has good sides and bad sides. Faults and rights, that kind of thing. Lisa should mature enough to be able to cope with my shortcomings.

I'd just tell her that if she wants, i'd be ready to disappear from her life since when she'll be ready to understand and cope, or since when i'll change as a person. It's no use to hope that a simple yell can change a person, or the view that you have about said person.
* SimpReal is too lazy to change anyway
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 23:26 »

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Has the initial post been edited? seemed longer yesterday... Smile
Hm.. can't remember, but I do know Gustavo's post is gone! =(

I'm gonna go with Maléfix on this one for most of it.
People get mad at me approximately.. never. And having a friend as precious as Lisa, I wouldn't even dream of disappointing her. If I'd for some reason ever let her down, there would surely be a good explanation, and one way or another I think she'd understand. Homer's got away with a few things without good explanations, right? ;x
Now... let's forget everything I just said. Gigi If she would get really upset with me, I'd of course be sad (whether she understands it or not) to have disappointed her. If there'd be absolutely no way to make things up to her I'd be devastated. Although I can't imagine a situation where I'd "realise" that. o_O I'd keep trying to set things straight in any way I can, while trying not to bother her by doing so. It's difficult to say what I'd do if I gave up, depends on what my life looks like overall at that point. At the moment I don't have anything to cling on to, so I'd probably go depressed and ignore my life for at least a few months. If things were good I'd probably make sure to keep earning my grades at school, do my chores and what not, but still be pretty sad for most part of the days. If things were really good and I also had some other friends that I enjoy talking to, I'd probably be sad at times, but still be able to enjoy daily life.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 23:37 »

I can imagine Lisa being disappointed in me in some ways I guess, a very bleak attitude towards issues like global warming and religion, let alone if she saw any of our Random Chaos footage, heh! Plus the fact I can be quite stubborn (apparently) to change my view. Though I do believe that I try to understand why somebody's view is different because I make my mind on which view I accept.

Nevertheless... I'd expect Lisa to accept me as I am, because I would want to treat her the same. But if there are irresolvable personality clashes, then I guess its not a bad move to go our seperate ways. I dont think its fair on either of us to try and change for the other person. Because those changes might clash with another friend... etc etc.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 23:53 »

I realise perfectly that with my endless laziness and ignorance I would be a PITA for Lisa. If we were near to each other, I can easily imagine situation when I disappoint her, even close to the bound of breaking. Sad What would happen afterwards? Okay it would make me very depressed, but, I wouldn't kill myself for sure, I wouldn't savour my depression either. I think I would wait few days and try and talk the problem over, to say sorry if needed. Lisa is a nice person, she is quite able to forget and to forgive, and time cures everything. But if, like Shadow Nait said, she would never forgive you... damn it would be awful. Sad The best way would be to move somewhere away and to try and live without hurting others.

Maybe in several months she would find you and try to make things up... that sounds like a dream and therefore unlikely, but if that happens, don't miss your last chance. :-)
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 16:42 »

Hey Miles I never said nobody was ever angry at me Big Grin

No I won't post another one-liner Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 17:07 »

Lisa?? Lisa Simpson? Disappointed in me? The universe would collapse if that happen. Because it never happen. I disappoint nobody who I care for. All people know that. My family. My girlfriends. My friends. Even my former girlfriends. Big Grin

What would be if Lisa has strongly disappointed in you?
Well, duh... it would be same as the situation any other important person to me would be disappointed in me. I would feel very upset with myselfe. Same with my girlfriend. If she is for some important reason dissappointed I try everything to make her happy again.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 19:06 »

I think an even more important question would be how she got disappointed.

Different causes, different reactions.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 21:30 »

oh that's true of course. But I think I'd mostly do what I already posted, if I wasn't already in a time-space-collapsed dimension...
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 22:24 »

As I understand, this situation should be considered not from the point of view of Lisa's admirer, but from the point of view of intimate person to her.
I badly imagine this situation, but nevertheless...
If Lisa for any reason will be disappointed in me (it should be very serious reason), I would find the way to solve this problem. Despite of my age and experience I'd search for a problem inside myself.. I would think, what is the reason of her disappointment in me. I'd try to improve myself and after I'd try to return her kind attitude to me. Even if I had to change my outlook on things.
And how could you do if she never supposed to forgive you?
I really don't know. To leave and to forget... Maybe it could be possible... maybe not.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 00:06 »

Okay... I'll indulge in a little bit of hypothetical thinking here...

Assuming Lisa was real, and assuming she was a friend of mine, if she were to be upset at me somehow, I'd pretty much treat it like I do with everyone else. For example, a friend of mine gets mad at me, and I don't know why. I ask him or her what the problem is, and either they tell me and we work things out (usually), or they refuse to speak to me. At which point I just ride it out until they come around, which can be quickly when they realize that the silent treatment goes nowhere in solving problems.

Gary made a good point though - it really depends on why she's mad at you. I've had friends mad at me for a variety of reasons, some of them are my fault, some of them are their fault, some are just plain silly. So it's entirely circumstantial.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2008, 03:06 »

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Sorry, didn't proof read my post closely enough. Tongue Fixed!

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Point there, I'll bet no Lisa fan here would imagine Lisa getting mad at you for a bad reason though. ^_^ But that's just 'cos she's essentially clay.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 04:36 »

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Well, Lisa is just as human as the rest of us. If I recall in one episode last season she was upset at Homer because he was refereeing one of her soccer games, and made a fair call that was in favor of the other team. After this she became upset with him and wouldn't talk to him because he "ruined her life". Rolls Eyes

My point is, she's not perfect, plus she's eight years old. There's much plausible cause for her to be angry at someone, and for it to be her own fault.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 05:09 »

Well, Lisa is just as human as the rest of us. If I recall in one episode last season she was upset at Homer because he was refereeing one of her soccer games, and made a fair call that was in favor of the other team. After this she became upset with him and wouldn't talk to him because he "ruined her life". Rolls Eyes

Though Homer was in the right. He was playing by the rules and had to give her a red card. Lisa finally managed to realise that, and he did a little dance for our entertainment. Tongue
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