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Question: Are you a vegetarian?
Yes - 3 (16.7%)
No, but I understand them - 9 (50%)
No, I will never refuse eating meat - 6 (33.3%)
Total Voters: 18

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2008, 04:48 »

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Unless they were vegans and denied even milk products, baby should have received enough of proteins. Of course they should have consulted dietitian before making such decisions...
Well you suspected that they were vegans, and they probably were. Raising a child on a vegetarian, especially vegan diet can be dangerous and I don't recommend it at all. As turned out in this case, the body didn't receive enough of the necessary proteins and anything else it needed to develop. And especially at this stage, when the child's bones are undergoing ossification, you have to give them a well-balanced and nutritious diet.

Too many people out there think that being vegetarian or vegan just means cutting certain products out of their life, such as meat, milk, eggs, etc. and not having to find a replacement for what is being lost from your diet.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2008, 07:00 »

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Isn't too uncommon... but it does make you wonder just how little people know about nutrition. ;| Cutting milk and meat is fine actually, soy/fungus products gives you the same things, and not even vegans should live without that. People shouldn't force their children to be vegetarian/vegan, but when their still infants (i.e before they can make any kind of decisions) it's the parents choice really, and it's not a difficult thing to manage. You're supposed to see a nutritionist to ensure your child gets the essential nutrition whether you're a vegetarian or not.  These people just got careless.
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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2008, 11:23 »

But imho, a bit like faith (but i dont want to start a discussion about this here), that isn't a thing for parents to decide: a parent hasn't got the right to "force" his/her child to grow up vegetarian or vegan since the start (even if vegetarian diet is on all sides more "healthy" than carnivore one), it must be a choice that matures inside each person with every passing day. They should, of course, not forbid it to the child either...

that of what Dagdamor talked about is just an example to the extreme of what could such a choice brign to, so i'm not taking it as a "thesis", but still i think man is born omnivore and that's the primal nature. Any forceful changes to this nature since birth is to be avoided, imho.
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2008, 12:53 »

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Being a vegetarian is hardly healthier than eating meat, it's just more common for a vegetarian to eat healthy. Tongue
I'm not sure if you misunderstood me or something, but I agree that it's not the parents choice (although I think it's nothing at all like faith. :|). The "omnivore nature" doesn't mean you have to eat meat, just that a human will accept meat... also by nature breast feeding is exclusively the source of nutrition for at least the first six months of infancy, no meat involved there. There are really no forceful changes applied, meat is one of the options available, not a requirement. When the child is old enough to give an answer, the parents should ask if he/she wants to eat meat and give them the option to try it out. Maybe he/she wants to keep on eating meat, maybe not, after that the person will have full say on when he/she wants to eat meat and when not to.
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2008, 20:43 »

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"When the child is old enough to give an answer, the parents should ask if he/she wants to eat meat"
I do not agree with you here, how can a child decide something on its own without any knowledge? A time must passed away before he or she can do it's choise. There must be a fixed age, which called also 'majority' Wink
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2008, 21:17 »

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o_O like I said, before the child can make any decisions, the parents are the ones to make all the decisions. If you mean that the child doesn't really know about the nature of his decision at say for example the age of 6, then it's probably a good idea to explain things. I'd personally bet a child raised in a vegetarian family would resent the idea of eating an animal, children pick up alot of things from conditions at home. Monkey see (or hear), monkey do... whether we like it or not, many ideals and attitudes of our families are indirectly/directly "forced" upon us.
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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2008, 08:12 »

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"I'd personally bet a child raised in a vegetarian family would resent the idea of eating an animal..."
And that's the thing. Who will guarantee that growing up in vegs-family the child will get absolutely clear and unbiassed opinion? Any parents influencing their people with their own principles no matter is it 'good' (vegetarian in our case) or 'bad' (meat-eating). In your case you was growned in family of meat-eaters as I can remember. And I can suppose that the major motive for you to become a veg was the constant contemplation of your relatives gulping down all that meats and other 'bad' products. If you would not have such a 'bad' example right before your eyes day by day who can say that you'll interested ever in vegetarianism? Sounds strange I know. But we are considering the case of naturally unbiassed person, the hypothetical case. In reality all is much tangled.
If you would be growned in the children's home I think you wouldn't have such opportunity to choice with its fixed menu (I don't know yet maybe in european children's homes there are special menu for vegs exists?)
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