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« on: October 28, 2007, 08:54 »

I wanted to make this as a question for the Trivia, but since it oculd have a large spectrum here it is in cae anyone wants to discuss it:

I was watching some season 18 episodes lately (and i've still got to catch up season 17 too), but i'm always noticing a common thread in episodes where Lisa has a major part in the plot:

Sooner or later she always ends up crying, even more than a time per episode. Now, frankly, i don't know if this is true or just my imagination, but as far as i can remember, in *every* episode she was in, she always had a scene were she cried, sobbed, or ran sobbing to her room. If you remember an episode where this isn't the case, pelase tell me cause i'm dying to know Big Grin

As for the topic, what do you think of this occurrence of Lisa crying so often? Is it justified or is it pushed by the writers so they can get an easy emotional push to a lousy plot (well yeah, in some of the latest episode i was led to think this)?

Personally, i think that the writers are overdoing it lately (as in last 10 seasons? Tongue ), making her cry for things imho she would not, or ocming up with evil things or words JUST to make her sad, and that bothers me quite a bit... your ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2007, 10:07 »

I never thought of it, I seriously doubt she cries in every episode. You could find the scripts online to help you refresh your memory though... she gets upset often, but she's Lisa Simpson. She disagrees with everyone and everything, she's bound to! Big Grin Remember shes a child, also a quite sensitive little girl. But she has her fun too! How about remembering those moments? Smile
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 18:12 »

I think you have a point here, Marco... now that I think about it, I believe they do give her a lot of scenes where something upsets her to the point of tears. Sometimes this is justifiable, it's for a good reason, but other times I believe it is like you said; the writers just wanted to add some emotion to an otherwise dry or stupid plot.

I haven't seen a lot of the recent episodes so I'm not sure if they're "exploiting" her character in them, but I wouldn't put it past the current writers. In the past episodes, I think that in contrast with the opinion that she's a crybaby, it could also be argued that she's just a child, and can be expected to cry about certain things she feels strongly about... which is, in Lisa's case, a lot of things Tongue

In this situation I can only say, let her cry, for she's a lady Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 04:32 »

There are many episodes, when actions of people around make her only to cry helplessly in the answer Sad Basically it is the male part of Simpsons family. Homer with its behaviour extremely upsets Lisa frequently and while he is the only example of men for her at present day, then he can personify by himself the males attention in the whole to her person, subconscious. Remember, hoe in "See Homer Run" when he with its inmindful words make her only to gulp one's sobs silently. Only Marge can help her such times. To say honestly my heart tears apart when I see her standing aside, wiping tears, lookung so insult at father.

But she's so natural with such expression of her emotions. Do you remember when you cried last time? Our life doesn't give us thr right to be weak, or more truly we lose such right by ourselves, what is worst of all.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2007, 11:39 »

Hah, interesting topic! Smile

Nah, I don't think the show creators have made Lisa the crybaby. Together with the moments when she cries, there are many moments when she's cheerful, or acting quite mature. So, I think it's either a coincidence, or someone's hidden desire to see Lisa needing some help, which I can understand very well too. Smile
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 09:39 »

I think that when she cries it is because she has good reason too. Does any body remember the fathers day episode where she makes Homer a book (very cute) and he is bored with it and doesn't hide his disappointment well? She gets very upset and that is understandable. To make matters worse he attempts to put it on the fridge, but the magnet doesn't hold and the book is destroyed by the fridge water. He comments on the magnet in a negative way, turning it over only to find that she made it for him. But, when her tears seem irrational you must remember that though she is an intelligent and mature person, she is also a little girl!
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 19:37 »

I think that when she cries it is because she has good reason too. Does any body remember the fathers day episode where she makes Homer a book (very cute) and he is bored with it and doesn't hide his disappointment well? She gets very upset and that is understandable. To make matters worse he attempts to put it on the fridge, but the magnet doesn't hold and the book is destroyed by the fridge water. He comments on the magnet in a negative way, turning it over only to find that she made it for him.

I think this is one of the few scenes were Homer is outrageously mean to his daughter: not even his stupidity can be an excuse for the way he acted back then... i truly hated him :\ And yeah, Lisa's tears were more than justified...
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Did he try to touch my hand,
Or is my mind playing tricks on me?
Do you think he hears us cry?
Does he understand
We are here, by his side...
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