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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2007, 08:46 »

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That talk was the way to meet and to know each other, nothing more. Smile
And we used to see even more angry Liser in the show. No, I don't think they have messed with her character in the Movie. In fact, she was very in character there, during all time, I didn't have a single moment when I could say to myself "Lisa wouldn't act so". And her punch for Bart was hilarious. Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2007, 08:52 »

All right then, whatever you say. But I stand by my previous statements. I don't like when they make her character act so. It's annoying, and even sometimes embarrassing.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 09:02 »

I don't really like it when they capitalize on this, though. It makes it seem like she is just an annoying, nagging little activist who will never be satisfied. If you want to change the world, there are other ways.
Well, you know, that I usually against that episodes, when she is too activistic, especially when it's not so important and she does it more for make herself important, than for real care about nature. But here it was needed for keep Springfield safe (people died and it was all serious), and she did only things that was really needed to prohibite pollution, it wasn't activism for activism, that I hate so much.

Lisa from show just has many many childish strains that make impression from her in 18 seasons another that Lisa from movie. That's Simpsons :/ Only seeing many plots, different situations you can see full Simpsons universe and lively characters. In one isolated episode one single quality always will be stronger than another.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2007, 19:04 »

Watched it with Rach finaly. Smile

(If you havent seen the movie, I strongly urge not to read on. Watch the movie, and expect nothing!)

Unfortunatly, again I'm stretched for time so I'll basicly say: It was awsome.
'Nuff said really.  Gigi

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Few things I can comment on the fly are; The Bart nudity was nothing more than terribly brilliant! How they got away with that I've got no idea... same with Homer sinking through the sink hole while giving his fellow town people the double-one fingers Tongue It was hilarious.
Lisa herself was, in my opinion, MUCH better than in previous episodes. Her childish crush on Collin, and her perseverance to halt the pollution of the lake. Its not the first time she's been door to door. Smile
And ofcourse, the guest star's where also well placed and didnt steal the spotlight from the family what so ever.
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Generaly, the writers, animators, voice cast, and directors have all done the impossible. After all the anticipation and the massive pressure to create something to not just beat the Simpsons episodes, but smash them in terms of humour, plot, and drama. Smile

Nice one Groening and co.!
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2007, 18:40 »

My promised review.

I watched it three times so far: first time alone, then with my sister, then with parents. First time I was astonished. The light goes on, and I ask myself, "is it already over?" A hour and a half have passed like 5 minutes. The amount of events was so big so I couldn't tell myself that moment, what was following what there. Only remembered the most bright moments that made me laugh out loud. Smile There are was another kind of impression, but I'll post about it later (or maybe next time).

The second time has settled my opinion down and helped to remember the Movie better. Funny, but my sister had the same thought right after the end: "Woah, is it already over? So quick?" When she checked time, she was surprized. I personally only convinced myself that the Movie was awesome. Smile The main plot was crazy - to cover a town with the dome, what can be less expectable? - but I liked it for that. The secondary one - the relations within the Simpsons family - was really, really good for me, because all those relations is the main reason why I watch the show lately. It didn't disappoint me at all, it was just like something I dreamed to see. For some reason I liked Marge's characterization very much - she was so in-character in every scene. Bart's sudden relations with Flanders were unusual, but I liked it too, it was reasonable and not the last thing in the whole plot.

What I didn't like: the moment with naked Bart was funny (I laughed at it, too), but IMHO the Movie wouldn't lose much if they made this scene less explicit. Ralph's reaction to Bart was plain cruel to any kind of Ralph fans, just imagine Lisa saying anything similar for the sake of stupid joke, that would probably kill me. Sad Also several other moments, when the jokes were more vulgar than funny. Although, I must say that the first time I was watching the Movie in the very morning, and the theater was full of kids. The most vulgar moments made them laugh the most. :/ So, I guess, this kind of stuff is also needed if you want to make a movie funny for the wide audience.

Now, about things that were much more funny to me. Smile All three times I laughed like crazy about the Homer and the hounds scene. My, it was brilliant! Big Grin The second moment I won't forget soon is the scene with Disney animals in the Simpsons' new house. Again, it was pure gold, I'd make a monument to the Movie creators for that thing alone Tongue And many many other things - scenes on the roof, scene with the church and bar, scenes with Cletus, scene with Homer dumping that pig container, scene with two families at the store... this is an endless list. Aside from the serious/dramatic moments, every minute something was happening that was making me chuckle. The Movie was one of the funniest things I've ever seen, I can't remember anything similar to compare it with.

Drama. Yes, the Movie also had its heart-touching moments - Lisa and Colin on the different sides of the barrier, chained Lisa playing her sax in the van, Marge's videotape... I will only say that I loved them, too.

And I simply have no words about Lisa's role. Homer is the main character there, and most of the time was dedicated to him. But the creators have managed to dedicate some time to Lisa too, and although she was acting a bit unusual there, her role was so good and important. I'm proud of her, about how she acted here and there, even if she was a bit childish in certain scenes Smile expect a separate thread from me, dedicated to Lisa's role in the Movie.

All in all, it was a brilliant Movie, and I already want to see it once again (yes, the fourth time). Maybe it had its flaws, maybe it could be even better. But it helped me a lot that I didn't watch trailers and never expected anything from it. So in the end, it was a total surprise to me, I didn't expect it to be that good.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2007, 22:33 »

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This seems to be a very wide reaction from most people. "The movie was totally awesome! I want to see it again and again!" Not that I have a problem with people liking the movie, no not at all; I just probably won't see it again until it's on DVD.

About the story: I thought the whole concept of putting a dome over Springfield was ridiculously stupid, and when they decided to kill off all of Springfield, it made it even stupider. I mean, it seems like with the plot (The Simpsons save Springfield!), they turned The Simpsons into action heroes Confused I didn't like this one bit, not at all...

I didn't think much about their choice of a villain, until I had time to reflect on the fact that Albert Brooks did the voice. Brooks has been in at least one prior Simpsons episode, where he voiced Hank Scorpio (You Only Move Twice). I then began to think, well wouldn't it have been better, or at least nice, if they had brought back one of these old characters? Personally I think Hank Scorpio would have made a much better villain than this new guy (can't remember his name)... I mean, Scorpio had a great personality in "You Only Move Twice", but this new guy who goes "mad with power" right off the bat... I don't think so.

Also... animation. I didn't like the way they made it seem different from the show... those of you who saw the movie know what I mean. I would have liked it better if they had made it not as smooth, like you were watching an actual episode on T.V. This new style of animating it made it seem to me like they were trying feebly to impress the audience (which apparently they did). However, it just left me missing the old Simpsons even more.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2007, 23:56 »

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This seems to be a very wide reaction from most people Tongue "The movie was totally awesome! I want to see it again and again!" Not that I have a problem with people liking the movie, no not at all; I just probably won't see it again until it's on DVD.
Embarrassed Well, maybe so. But what can I do - the Movie was awesome to me and I really want to see it again. Maybe my reaction looks childish, but I tried my best to explain why I liked it that much. Wink

And most probably, I won't see it again until I purchase the DVD version, too, so you're not alone... like I said in another topic, the official showing seems to be over here, and I don't have possibility to download it. I've checked one licensed store today btw, they say they expect the Simpsons Movie in about a month. Better than I expected Smile
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2007, 12:26 »

Well, a short review for now, since i'm at work.

The movie rocked! As many, i had the impression it was over just too soon. Smile I was so impressed to see a whole cinema full of people not going away before the lights were turned out after the last second of the last bit of the ending credits. That never happened before around here! Usually as soon as the credits start, the lights are turned on and people runs.

But... the movie.
There were very few things i didn't like. all the rest was still some of the same things that The Simpsons have done during these years, only better. Much better. The first part of the movie is a neverending laugh fest. You either laugh at the jokes or at the funny characterization of the Simpsons and the townspeople, or you just marvel at the technical quality of the drawings.

Every character was greatly written in my opinion. In the family there was of course more airspace for Homer but the other family members weren't underlooked. Everyone had a part. Just for the sake of the board, i'll just tell that Lisa was imho he most unexpectedly nice characterization. She was just lovable.

Praise for the voice actors, too. Not one was out of place or straining (of course talking for Italian dubbing).

The less TV-friendly jokes, like Bart's nudity, some swearwords, Homers gesture... were so greatly delivered that they were the most praised by the public. Doing them in any other way would have made them over the line.

What i didn't like the most, was the bad guy. There's only one Evil guy in the Simpsons, and that's Mr. Burns!! No matter how good a new character is established, Mr. Burns HAD to have 1) more time and 2) the "evil mastermind" role! I never cared much for that EPA soldier. This is the only bad thing that keeps me from giving the movie a full 10.

9/10 is my grade for the movie as a Simpsons aficionado who feels like he found something he thought it was long lost. Long live the Simpsons!

Lisa Rules! Big Grin
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2007, 01:06 »

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I'm glad you liked it Smile

It's interesting that you disliked Cargill so much... I personally liked that character, especially the moment when his craziness started to be noticeable to the others - "We need ten thousand tough guys, and ten thousand soft guys, to make tough guys look tougher" Wink

Maybe Burns could also play that role, who knows. But Cargill went crazy in the end, and also was really bad character in the Movie. Probably they just decided to spare Burns (for the sake of that mansion scene, for example), or decided not to make him worse than he already is.

And about Lisa... you're tempting me to open yet another Movie-dedicated topic, this time about Lisa solely Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2007, 01:54 »

I didn't like Cargill, either. And it wasn't the introduction of another villain that bothered me, it was just the way that he acted, seemed, I don't know... almost corny in the sense. Now that I look back on the movie, it sort of seems like they were trying to make some parts dramatic. To me, at least, that failed miserably.

I don't know of any workaround for this, though. They couldn't use Burns, because A. He lives in Springfield, and B. They'd need someone from the government. There has to be some different way, though; surely the writers could come up with something better. Confused
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2007, 08:15 »

At least bring back Hank Scorpio... i put him just a little step under Burns in the field of "evil mastermind"ness. Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2007, 14:43 »

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Yes, one idea that I thought would've been nice Tongue Considering the same actor who played Cargill also played Scorpio.
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2007, 14:58 »

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Hmm... I don't think Hank Scorpio would fit Cargill's role. Come on, Scorpio wasn't "evil mastermind", at least not to the degree Cargill was. In the "You Only Move Twice" episode, Scorpio didn't do anything bad to the Simpsons, in fact, he tried to give them better life. And if it didn't turn out well, it wasn't his fault Wink It would be wrong to convert him into real "evil" IMHO.

Considering the same actor who played Cargill also played Scorpio.
Really? I didn't know that Smile
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 15:04 »

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Yes indeed, Albert Brooks... and true about Scorpio, he wasn't cruel to the Simpsons, but I'm sure they would make it believable if he wanted to take over Springfield or something. They wanted to give him the easygoing, charismatic atmosphere, but still, remember he was attempting to take over the world. Tongue

I don't know, something about Cargill just didn't fit.
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2007, 20:13 »

Yay, more people, who don't like evil EPA guy! Smile

I completely agree with Marco, that Burns should have been given more time in that movie, such a brilliant character had so poor realization of his evil abilities. But, as George said, they needed different type of person. I never liked Hank Scorpio much, but even he could be better than Cargill. Also, how about Sideshow Bob? Evil genius, who doesn't live in Springfield right now, has political experience and wants revenge from Simpsons family (and he doesn't like Springfield much). Perfect choice. Only than they have to make up another ending. But maybe it could be even more great, not simple killing of bad guy, but something deep with complex psycological... ahem... things. That could give some "simpsonic" moments to the movie, show that Simpsons-universe more detailed, more vividly. New chapter of battle between Bob and the Simpsons in new format could be awesome. I waited for this so much, it was only one thing I definitely hoped to see in Simpsons movie Sad Cargill isn't well-developed personage, in my opinion; in comparison with Hank Scorpio, Mrs. Botz or even with some other supportive personages,  who were in the Simpsons only once, he is just bad pale distorted copy of some stereotypical "bad guy". And there is lack of originality in Colin, too. Looks like they did not very good work with new characters. Boob lady could be nice, if not her boobs Big Grin They danced with Homer so great, she was a nice find, but giving her such "name" and figure ruined this partially, imho. Yeah, it's hard to design new unique and interesting character after so many years, but maybe than wasn't necessary at all.
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