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« on: July 01, 2007, 22:28 » |
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(Split from this topic) O.K., this clinches it. Am I the only LTS member SO in love with Lisa that ... I don't necessarily imagine her with her clothes on all the time? Sorry, I could only ask this under an "anonymous" account. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 22:33 » |
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Maybe you should create a seperate topic for that... 
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 23:01 » |
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The moderators can move it if they like.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 23:29 » |
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LisaSimpsonLoverThey can't... mainly because there are no moderators on this forum yet, d'oh. Anyway, if you really want to talk about that (i.e. about feeling physical attraction to Lisa), I can split this into a separate topic, I'm not sure Gustavo would appreciate people discussing that right in his gallery. But I ask both you and the most "puritanic" members to be tolerant and understanding to each other. Okay? P.S. Welcome, whoever is hiding under that anonymous account 
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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi Hendrix
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 23:30 » |
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So presumably you're an existing member? In which case you may have already seen this topic where this sort of question has come up. And personally speaking, what I said there still stands - be very careful where you're going with this.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 00:26 » |
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LisaSimpsonLover Well first of all, I don't consider you a pedo for saying this, but I can't say that I've ever felt this way, even when I was in love with Lisa. I mean, I did have a physical attraction for her, but I didn't sit there and daydream about her body.
And I do suggest splitting this topic, personally I can't see why you've chosen this topic to post that in, LSL. It's an open ended topic, even if it has the potential to be a bit dirty. Though I'm sure our members wouldn't go there.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 00:44 » |
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As for suggestions, and because it kinda is a topic that deserves a thread by its own, i'm splitting the topic and moving it to the general discussion club. I'm too tired-knackered to be of any help, so while i recover please behave 
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 01:01 » |
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DagdamorI meant SimpReal and yourself. I call anybody with powers above normal users "moderators."  I chose Gustavo's thread because his poem inspired me to break the ice finally. Not because the poem is dirty (it's beautiful), but because it expresses the love I wonder if more members take to the level I do. janglewolfYes I am. For a long time. I'm aware of that thread too. But it was more or less about Lisa as a girlfriend and things like that. Not really what I'm curious about. About "dangerous ground", I'll quote your words from that thread. "As long as this attraction applies ONLY to Lisa and goes no further". Bingo. At least for me. There's also adult Lisa (future Lisa). GeorgeHarrisonIt's not necessarily a prolonged daydreaming thing. More like how when you fall in love or develop a crush on a real person and imagining them nude or even sexually becomes an inclusive element of your overall picture of that person. But not the only part of it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 01:15 » |
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LisaSimpsonLover May I ask a provocative question? Do you have similar kind of attraction towards other cartoons' character(s)? Or Lisa is your only love, both in the real world and in the drawn one?
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 01:17 » |
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LisaSimpsonLover Yes, I think I understand what you mean. It was much like this for me too; when you love someone, you love every aspect of them; their every color, if you will.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 01:32 » |
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This is an interesting discussion point. Mainly because its so controversial. Now, when you first said it, I was a bit worried what path this was leading down, which in the worst case senario, concerns a naked eight year old girl. However, you mentioned the word 'girlfriend' which changes my thoughts completely. You could be 16 or 36, but if she was your girlfriend, presumably, she'd be a similar age in your imagination. And with that in mind, I guess its fine by me. Problem with imagining Lisa without clothes is, other people are obviously going to asume you mean the Lisa Simpson, from the TV show.  This isnt really answering your question though... and I guess the only answer to that is, I'm not a 'true' LisaLover in a sence that, I share love with another, and Lisa is more a role-model than anything else. So I cannot answer the question. However, I presume your not alone. Being on the verge of what I can get away with saying: Everyone has an imagination, and if they love somebody for so long, naked-ness is more than likely just a link in the chain of love. If your humanist, like me, then sex is probably the greatest physical bond you can share with another individual, as marriage is just a religious ceramony, with no 'modern-world' meaning. With this in mind, I can full well understand why somebody in love with Lisa, would have these thoughts. Its very normal.  Interesting...
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 03:32 » |
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DagdamorNot provocative. It's an honest question. To answer, I once had such an attraction to another young cartoon. But I was 10 then.  Lisa is the only character I feel so strongly for today. I don't have a real-life girlfriend now. However, my Lisa "thing" predates past girlfriends and did not become dormant during those relationships, some short, some long. CasperIt's possible you've misunderstood. This applies with or without the context of Lisa as a simiarly-aged girlfriend. I find her as "desirable" regardless of the age she's drawn. However, bear in mind that predation and explotation are overriding factors in conventional pedophilia. An adult's authority vs. a child's naivety. My attraction to Lisa developed because of her intellect and personality. Lisa is more like an adult than a child. So even though I find her physical appeal equal at any age, I don't feel guilty about including her "8 year old version" in that equation because, even then, she's no 8 year old intellectually. That's why I decided to ask. Few have problems thinking of Lisa "intimately" if they're also thinking of her as an adult girlfriend. Whether others let her intellectual maturity override the otherwise appropriate guilt that would accompany seeing a true child this way, and are attracted to Lisa so "unconditionally" (young and old), is what my original question was getting at.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 03:39 » |
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LisaSimpsonLoverAnd yet again, I will say this is what I have experienced  Not anymore though, but when I did have feelings for Lisa, it was like this. I didn't see her as a typical eight year old, and so my sexual desires for her did not cause me to feel like a pedophile. Her intellect and maturity remind me of myself, and I think this was one of the contributing factors in my romance for her. I tend to fall for people with matching personalities. Lisa was like this because of her maturity, and caring nature. Kim was like this because of her similar musical tastes, interest in guitars, and also her maturity and friendly manner. Love can make anyone beautiful. It's the most attractive garment anyone can wear. And for a time, Lisa wore this love that Kim wears now; and so in my eyes, she was attractive in every way, including sexually, and I felt no guilt over this.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 06:17 » |
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And again the pedophile thing comes up. Why would you be a pedophile when you're physically attracted to Lisa? I think people who see Lisa for the first time won't instantly be physically attracted to her anyway. That happens over time when you start to love her for who she is and what she does.
And no, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's perfectly normal to be phyically attracted to someone you love.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 07:39 » |
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SuusjePeople tend to think of you as a freak and a pedophile for loving Lisa because loving Lisa is not a common thing. Most people are insensitive to such things, and thank God that I have had this experience of loving Lisa to understand where such people are coming from. I may not feel it anymore, but now that I have at least experienced it, I can say that I can understand them. Unfortunately many people who do not understand it, choose to mock those who feel it, because to them, this person has basically fallen in love with an EIGHT YEAR OLD, FICTIONAL girl. And they think that is stupid, scary, perverted, and a variety of other negative adjectives  Well, in a place like LTS, people like this are shunned, and LisaLovers are welcome. 
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