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« on: January 31, 2007, 05:54 » |
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Can anyone provide a link or tell me where I can find this story?
I've heard it mentioned lots of times and I'm interested in reading it.
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"A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times... here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft."
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"So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."
-F. Scott Fitzgerald
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 06:03 » |
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GeorgeHarrisonYou can find it on SR, in the Fanfiction section (just scroll it right a bit). Caution, it's quite violent in the beginning, but the rest makes up for that completely imho. Have fun reading it... especially after first two chapters. Maybe we also could discuss it a bit here, it would be nice. After reading LF the first time I had so many different thoughts... don't remember posting them anywhere. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 08:05 » |
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Finished reading it a couple days ago. Very moving, whoever wrote it deserves a gold star.  |
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"A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times... here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft."
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 16:56 » |
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She does! The name is in the very beginning btw  Seriously, hmm... *feels a bit uneasy* George, knowing that you're a big Lisa fan, I'm interested to know your opinion about the book in a more detailed way. Not only to support this topic (even if I think it deserves ), but I'm also really curious. I loved it to the degree I've translated it to another language... certain moments pushed me away a bit, certain moments made me re-read them again and again. What would you feel to say about LF? |
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 17:03 » |
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I just loved that story I couldn't stop reading it and I agree that it should be made into a film!
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 22:44 » |
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I'm not very good with book/story reviews... ...errr. The end. But, out of the 6 or 7 stories I've read in my life (not including text books or encyclopedias), including ' The Very Hungry Catapiller' and 'Pilot Bird And Gums', this was probably the second best thing I've ever read. Certainly a very worth while read. Just, epic. Very very entertaining read. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 23:58 » |
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In a more detailed response to this outstanding story, I would say that in reading it I had my highs and lows. In certain situations I laughed, especially when Nurse Stanway tells Marge she needs to have blood drawn and Homer asks, "So... is there as much blood as there is in ER?" Too funny. Other parts, such as the beginning first pages where Lisa is suffering from the mental and physical sadism of Jack, really made me feel sorry for her and angry almost. Even though the Lisa Simpson that I know and love is a different person than Lisa Fitzgerald, they are so much alike and different that it gave me a very odd feeling when I read it. I didn't know what to think of after I finished reading, I looked at various pictures of her and felt like I was seeing two different people. I saw Lisa Simpson and one side of me remembered vegetarianism, sibling rivalry, and a tired love for her family, the Simpsons. Another part of me thought of sensitivity, three years of abuse, and an attempted suicide. I was torn for about a day, but after thinking, I realized the way it really was: it's a movie. And who plays the main character? Lisa Simpson. I've always enjoyed reading tremendously, and one thing that I enjoy when I read is an author's fearlessness; that is, to say, that they aren't afraid to include things that might be offensive to some (sorry, conservatives). My favorite author is Stephen King, and one of the reasons being that he is very direct with his writing. He doesn't need to clean it up, he shows it how it really is. The beginning of LF when Jack is yelling at Lisa, calling her a "dirty little bitch", a "fucking animal", are prime examples of this fearlessness. They provide the story with realism - a raging alcoholic doesn't clean up their speech in the heat of anger. And yes, these parts made me very sorry for her and very angry with Jack, and it's times like this, when reading unlocks emotions in you, that you know what you are reading is "good". Also: I apologize for the briefness of my previous reply  At that moment I was very busy and didn't have time to really say what I wanted to, and even when I do, it's difficult for me to form the right words. However, I did want to let you know that I had read and enjoyed it. |
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"A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times... here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft."
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"So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."
-F. Scott Fitzgerald
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2007, 22:16 » |
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You should consider pointing your computer in the following direction.
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"A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times... here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft."
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2007, 22:56 » |
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She means if you enjoyed her first story, you should take a look at the rewrite-in-progress she's doing.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2007, 00:36 » |
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jennyWelcome  I'm probably butting into a topic with the words I should keep inside, but... if you registered here anyway, why not create a topic dedicated to the new version of your story, even if that's WIP? I'd love to say something about LF2, but I'm not sure I'll have guts to re-register at GFWC. No offence... btw, I'm glad to know you didn't abandon the project, keep it up
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2007, 07:52 » |
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She means if you enjoyed her first story, you should take a look at the rewrite-in-progress she's doing.
Ahh... I see. I'll have a look at that, and once again thanks for writing a great story. |
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"A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times... here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft."
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-F. Scott Fitzgerald
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2007, 23:21 » |
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I'm not sure that any member here would support this opinion, but I still want to ask: didn't any of you, people, feel sorry for Jack, not Lisa? I've re-read LF first version today and read rewritten Part I (it's a bit less violent), and I keep thinking this is very, very pessimistic novel, that make reader feel depressed. Of course, there are no excuses for Jack's behaviour, but still. I respect Jenny's gift to write very much, technically her novel is incredible, but I can't agree with opinion, that all've ended well, because Lisa suffered so much, but still struggled and found happiness finally. For me the lesson is "Yep, she is sweet little lucky angel, she found people, who wanted love her and take care of her, and this is pretty good for her, but most of kids, unwanted by anyone, growing up to be unhappy like Jack". He also struggled, maybe he even struggled harder than Lisa, because he found power to live and he tried to find happiness in new family, in his work, but all his attempts failed. I don't think this fic could have another ending to Jack. But I can't understand people who think that it's all Lisa's merit :/
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2007, 23:39 » |
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brakusaetsyaI felt sorry for Jack's predicament, but after his reactions, I started to feel less and less sympathy for him. True, it was sad that his wife cheated on him, and that he had a history of abuse as well, but I think this is necessary that what happened to him, happened to him (slow decline into alcoholism, loss of everything, eventual suicide). Although it's cruel and sad, this gives it a cold realism. Not like "And everyone lived happily ever after" - I don't like books or stories like that. No, that's not how things always work out. Let me give you an example of another author using this. **SPOILER ALERT!In Stephen King's novel "Wizard and Glass", 4th novel in the 7 novel Dark Tower series, he has the main character (Roland Deschain) explain to his companions the story of his first and only love, a lovely girl named Susan Delgado. Roland and Susan love each other very much, but circumstance separates them, and Roland does everything he can to keep Susan safe after she is wrongly convicted of a crime. Despite his best efforts, though, Susan Delgado is arrested and burned at the stake. This, people, is an example of the cold reality of our society. Not everything has a happy ending, and sappy stories that make things out to have such endings usually do not make their way into my top ten favorites. Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the situation and ultimate fate of Jack Fitzgerald.
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 00:01 » |
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GeorgeHarrisonThat's why King's novels scare me so much I just can't understand 2 things: why Jenny have chosen such form as simpsons-fic for her sad confession and why everyone keep thinking that Lisa is kinda hero in this novel. Even more, I think main character here is Jack, not Lisa, and I'm not so happy that as I see in rewritten part, Jenny prefered to make a real hero from Lisa and give Jack just a small supporting villain role. It's kinda exploitation of public adoration of Lisa, I think :/ Ahem... Well, maybe it's just my personal jealousy again. Hope no one will be hurted with these messages.
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