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« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2007, 15:18 » |
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Split part of the topic into a separate thread. YggdrasillNot sure, but who knows? If you was not just nice to the others, if you was caring about environment, respected world of animals, helped others to learn good things... then very much possible that you was.  Of course that "religion", or whatever you call it, cannot be expressed with a single short phrase; I only said about the most important part of it (most important to my opinion). I don't know what "Lisaism" can be; I just think it would be nice to try and research that, if we have the chance.
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« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2007, 01:34 » |
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Whoa!  I should have known that religious topic always makes the sparks fly, but I did NOT see this one coming, as I didn?t take it seriously. By the way, Lisaism doesn?t even have to be a religion per se. How about a different kind of philosophy based only on facts from the show? Even some bad ones, just for the sake of keeping it light. For instance, a ?teaching? that requires that you get back at your brother with a crazy experiment involving a cupcake?  What would be the point of this?  Fun mostly, with a moral lesson here and there. After all we are talking about Lisa Simpson.  In order to become a devotee you have to. A) Recycle, B) write a song about horrors of bullfighting, or C) fall in love with a Nelson-type and try to convert him/her into a gentleman/lady. Do all three and you get your golden starfish sticker. See where I'm going? 
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« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2007, 01:53 » |
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oh, and for the people who ask..." what if I dont have a brother?!" Well, you get a minus, sir! Im in a very evil mood tonight- 
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« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2007, 15:14 » |
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lizard_queenIndeed, I could still picture the "Lisaism" idea as a fun thing or as Dagdamor proposed, just a basic set of ideas for being a good person. In swedish I think the term "Livs?sk?dning" would fit this, I don't know an english counterpart (thank you very much, swedish grammar) as a single word, neither does the dictionary. But it's basically the same thing "outlook on life" or "philosophy of life", just a string of thoughts. "Getting back at your brother with a crazy experiment involving a cupcake" (  ) those kinda things could probably be endorsed, but I think only (well, mostly ^^) for the sake of humor, not as a ravenous desire for revenge. 
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« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2007, 23:31 » |
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Sounds like a funny idea, I must admit... you know, believe it or not, when I used to be "in love" with Lisa, I tried to make my life as much like hers as I could. By recycling, standing up for all kinds of things she stood up for, basically making myself a vessel through which she could channel herself into our world.  Of course it got to the point of obsessiveness, and I'd be lying if I said it was a bit of a relief to not feel like Lisa was standing over my shoulder watching my every move  Still, I don't suppose it's really a bad thing to learn from Lisa. Quite the opposite, really. Certainly better than learning from or following the example of someone like Homer or Bart...
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« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2007, 01:01 » |
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those kinda things could probably be endorsed, but I think only (well, mostly ^^) for the sake of humor, not as a ravenous desire for revenge.  But of course, Kasper!, Or??...  Sounds like a funny idea, I must admit... you know, believe it or not, when I used to be "in love" with Lisa, I tried to make my life as much like hers as I could. By recycling, standing up for all kinds of things she stood up for, basically making myself a vessel through which she could channel herself into our world  Of course it got to the point of obsessiveness, and I'd be lying if I said it was a bit of a relief to not feel like Lisa was standing over my shoulder watching my every move  Still, I don't suppose it's really a bad thing to learn from Lisa. Quite the opposite, really. Certainly better than learning from or following the example of someone like Homer or Bart... Some obsessivness can be healthy for the soul, George. Ok, maybe not... it's meant as a joke of course. But if someones wishes to take it seriously, there are many good sides of Lisa's lifestyle/philosophy that could turn anybody into a better person. I think.  There's something so comfortably addictive about the Simpsons in general... If youre cured, good for you. I'm afraid my condition is only getting worse. But I'm kind of proud of it.
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« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2007, 01:05 » |
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lizard_queen"Cured" I don't know  Hard to say if it was a disease in the first place. Just a phase, I suppose. Eight months ago the Simpsons were my life. Nowadays I hardly watch them anymore.
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« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2007, 01:37 » |
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lizard_queen"Cured" I don't know  Hard to say if it was a disease in the first place. Just a phase, I suppose. Eight months ago the Simpsons were my life. Nowadays I hardly watch them anymore. Hardly watch them anymore?!  Repent, repent! Everyone needs some yellow in their life. 
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« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2007, 01:57 » |
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lizard_queenMeh, I just lost interest after awhile... I guess overdoing something at one point can be a bad thing, hm? 
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« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2007, 18:32 » |
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KasperLisaskadning, eh?  Not sure about Swedish, but in the Ancient Greece there was a thing that resembles my views about Lisaism a lot. It was called Stoicism and was more philosophy than religion; although it had traits of them both. The main ideas are: the spirit is more important than body, emotions should be under control, you should cope with imperfections of the others, always follow your principles etc. It didn't have anything about cats, ponies or vegetarianism, but it still had quite nice ideas we could use. Dunno how that philosophy is popular nowadays, though.
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« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2007, 19:07 » |
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lizard_queenWell thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  *develops a Bartism instead*
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« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2007, 19:17 » |
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DagdamorActually, it sounds like Stoicism is a "livs?sk?dning"; like I said "outlook on life" or "philosophy of life". So the term "livs?sk?dning" doesn't define any principles or philosophies, it's just what you call things like Stoicism or New Age, perhaps you're familiar with the this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_AgeSo yeah, we're on the same track here. 
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« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2007, 19:19 » |
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Well thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  But... But... I want to be a Lisaist as well!  (And actually, I wouldn't mind being a girl. From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad.  ).
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« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2007, 19:26 » |
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From what I've seen in various forums etc., most girls are glad to be one, so it can't be that bad.  ...<_< ....>_> ....I must be a rebel then  Either that or a tomboy or something O_o Anyway, don't think I'd mind being a Lisaist too much XD However I'm not really a religious person so I probably wouldn't be able to keep it up >_<
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« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2007, 19:33 » |
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lizard_queenWell thank you very much, now I have the feeling that Lisaism can be only for girls  *develops a Bartism instead* Hey, Dag which part exactly made you think that Lisaism is only for girls? I didnt mean it that way. You could develop Bartism, but it's a pity, you know that Lisa always wins. Andreas, I do enjoy being a girl. I even like being frustrated about it sometimes. 
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