MilesI'm very open to the idea of God, but what I do hope is that he really is as good and loving as these religions teach us. Which ultimately means that I really hope that GH is wrong about him. In this entire thread (or anywhere else), I haven't seen one reasonable, redeeming word for why alot of people, supposedly, are going to burn when they clearly do not deserve it. I hope that God isn't ALL what we're taught, because I could never pledge allegiance to a being so cruel. By cruel I don't mean the fact that he administers trials to see if people's faith is strong and pure, but rather that some people were never given a chance to have faith in the first place.
It's for this reason that a lot of people who believe in some kind of higher power condemn Christianity - they wonder why a God who is supposed to be loving would throw people into Hell? Well, first of all, He doesn't - we do it ourselves. We live because God has given us choice - to accept Him, or not. Some people do, some people don't. The point is, the people who never accept Christ as a payment for their sins and repent from their wrongdoing are still in sin when they die and go to be judged. And because God is holy, he cannot co-exist with sin - it's against his nature. So by our own acts we separate ourselves from God.
Each time I hear you go on about religion it all sounds so negative GH, like you take pleasure in stripping individual thoughts down by relying on ancient scriptures (rewritten even) that you would never admit that they could be wrong...
I'm not trying to be negative, nor do I take pleasure in stripping individual thoughts - what I'm trying to do is tell you how I see it. And how I see it, the majority of this forum haven't repented, or put their faith in Christ. People argue that "Well hey I'm a good person, why shouldn't I get into Heaven?" I hate to say it, but on the day of judgment, no one is going to argue their way into Heaven. Right from the minute they stand before the throne, they'll know that it wasn't good enough. God gave us the gift of His son as a full payment for our sins. The message of the Bible is not a negative one - it's powerfully uplifting. You have the chance to turn away from your sin right this minute.
The majority of people I find who willingly turn away from Christ do so for two reasons: pride and laziness. The prideful people say "Oh I'm a good person, why should I need a savior?" Well, you may be a good person, but you aren't a great person. And you certainly aren't a perfect person - which is why, again, you need Christ to take the payment for your sins. The other people simply procrastinate. They think "Hm, Jesus? Repentance? Faith? I'll get to it when I'm older." The truth is, nobody knows when they're going to die - tomorrow may be too late.
Again, I'm not trying to be negative - but you can't delude yourselves that no matter what you do, everything's going to be all hunky dory in the end. God is a just god as well as a loving god, and you will be judged on your choices in this life.
...you can't trust anything in this world, there's always error, human error, nature's seeming error.
That's true, there is a lot of human error, and the Bible we read today is not the word for word translation of what was written roughly two-thousand years ago. But it has survived that long, and has yet to be proven wrong - beyond that, all you can do is take it on faith. I've seen things happen in my life that I simply can't label as chance, and on this and that you'll just have to trust me.
