Lisa, the Simpson!

Yes, I remember that LisaCon still isn't finished, but artists already did their work for it, so... :)
SamuS (remember him?) offered to open a new art contest. The rules are really interesting, so I agreed. If LTS joins, there will be three forums (Simpsons- and Futurama-dedicated) participating in it. But we still need more people. :) If you want to participate, choose your team and post about it here.


The Rules

1. There are two teams - Simpson fans and Futurama fans. It is good if both teams have about equal number of members, although it's not necessary. What is necessary is the desire to draw your favorite characters in unusual role and/or situation.

2. Each team should draw certain number of pictures - the style, technical stuff, complexity etc is not important. (Just remember that colored picture, as always, is more preferable rather than a black/white sketch.) Each picture should show certain character in certain situation/role. After presenting all pictures, judges grade each and decide which team has won the contest.

3. The topic of this contest is "Mythology". Each character should be portrayed as one of the divinities listed below:

- Supreme Divinity
- Divinity of Seas and Oceans
- Divinity of Sky
- Divinity of Fire
- Divinity of Earth
- Divinity of Love
- Divinity of Underworld (not sure it's the right word... I meant "anything below the ground")
- Divinity of War.

So, each team should draw exactly 8 pictures.

Important: Remember that neither your chosen characters, nor their roles may not repeat. That means that you'll have to use secondary characters from the show too. Which ones - depends on your team's decision. Also, remember that everything else - divinity's appearance, existence/absence of additional characters on the pic - is up to you.

4. Every forum's member can be a judge. After posting the pictures, there will be an open poll where everyone can vote for the best picture. Each vote counts as one point. The team collected the best score is a winner. Judges should try and make their decisions based on picture's quality, complexity, originality, and how well the character fits his/her role on the drawing.

5. The rules are subject to change.


And the last thing - this one is going to be really interesting, don't stand aside! We need your help, both teams :) So post here if you like to participate, and which team you choose. Right now both teams have about equal number of members (I'll post the detailed info later), so both teams need more.

=D

Wonderful. But should not we first finish the reults of Lisa con?


Nevermind! I love the Simpsons, but I go on Futurama team, because I wanted to draw Lrrr for a loooong time. =)

Speaking of the LisaCon results, when are they coming out anyway?

Anyway... I'll go to The Simpsons team. I like Futurama too, but I never tried to draw some character from Futurama, and it would be a mess if I tried, so I decided to play safe and go to the Simpsons team.

You can count on me in The Simpsons team :)

This sounds interesting. I'd like to put my name down as a 'maybe' for Team Futurama, because I have an idea for the god of seas and oceans and I'm just that predictable.  :gigi:

Some questions:

1) Which site is this competition being held on?

2) Is there a deadline already or a time at which teams are supposed to get together?

3) Would the team draw eight pictures between however many artists, or would we get to do one picture each?

4) -- Does this refer to the main figure in the picture or various background figures too? (I suspect the former
but it's good to check).

5) Can I weasel out of it if someone's already bagged my idea?

Put me down as a tentative yes for this, subject to possible change later (quite busy currently :P). I'd prefer simpsons, but could have a crack at some futurama.

El_Barto
Welcome to the Simpsons team! :)

CargoOfDarkness
Beb
Argh :D I hoped that any of you would join the Simpsons team (since I'm in it, too)... but good enough that you joined, or thinking about doing it :)

D.B.
Oh, it would be great, hope you won't change your mind.

2 everyone: here is the current teams state:

Simpsons Team
- Dagdamor
- Sheffa
- Ilyich
- Nosferaty
- El_Barto
- D.B. (thinking)

Futurama Team
- SamuS
- Amirel
- Predator
- Dr.X
- CargoOfDarkness
- Beb (thinking)

If you ask me, I'd say that Simpsons team needs one more experienced artist... *looks at Marco with hope*

Beb
1. ISFF (www.allsimpsons.ru), but SAL (www.futurama.su) and LTS support it.
2. No deadlines so far. As soon as the teams get formed, there will be one perhaps, but not right now.
3. The team can divide work as they like. I.e. one member draws a sketch, another one colors it, third one finishes. Or one member does a picture from beginning to an end.
4. Hmm, good question, I'm not sure about this. Must consult with SamuS :) So far I'd say that if you used a character for one of the divinities, he/she should not appear as a secondary character on another picture. But I'm not sure.
5. To avoid that, there will be a hidden section on one of the forums (maybe here), where team can sort out things privately and avoid repetitions. Different languages can be a barrier here :/ but I hope we solve that problem.

Dagdamor
When the teams are formed and a deadline is set, I just hope it's not between 6th June and 20th June x_x I need to study for my exams...

I agree with El Barto, but I very much doubt I'll compete here. If I did, it would be for Simpsons since I've never drawn Futurama before  :confused: I may change my mind depending on how desperate you need a spare artist.

It's nice to see this taking shape already. :) I'm not really a fan of crossover pics, but if there's a chance that two of my favorite shows can be merged into a couple of great pics, I'd say this is a good opportunity to see some nice artwork.

Okay, I got my team-mates contacted and know what I am about to draw. Have fun, people. :)

If it's undecided at the moment, I'd suggest limiting it to the main figure (the deity), otherwise there'd be too much risk of the same character popping up in two or more backgrounds. It wouldn't be worth the effort to make sure a character was only in one background of one picture.

^_^ I would've loved to draw the "Divinity of Seas and Oceans" for the futurama team! Shame I can't draw. (Where's the LisaCon writing contest? xP)
Great idea SamuS, whoever you are! (I think I've seen his name somewhere before, but that's about it. :X) These contests are lots of fun, what with all the pictures coming in a steady stream... apart from sketches by Gustavo and some works of Tiago I haven't seen much interesting in the sketchbook lately. =(

This sounds like a wonderful idea :) However my only worry is how much time I will have not just cos of exams but after I finish exams I have to go back to school for a certain few "leaver" things ^_^; and I have many many partys to attend x_X...So I'm not sure I'll have enough time :( So for me it just depends on dates...
If The Simpson team is desperate for any artists then I'll consider entering, if not then please do go on without me :P

Black_raven
I'd love to see you in our team... yes, we need more members, mainly because I'm useless as artist.
So, welcome!

Today, a bit later, I will create a separate hidden board for our team. It's required so we could arrange technical stuff like who will draw which characters. SamuS asked me about the same for the Futurama team, and since boards should be separated... two new sections as it seems. :)

I'd like to try for simpson characters if thats no problem.   :)  I do not wish to stay out of another contest. No way, Jose!

OPUS
Sure, welcome!
Okay, now our team seems to be a serious competitor. :)
Expect that mentioned board from me and a topic concerning what to draw, today.

Thanks Dagdamor.  And good idea, this.  :)  But I don't understand a word from any of those sites.  :D

Here is the updated teams state:

Simpsons Team
- Dagdamor
- Sheffa
- Ilyich
- Nosferaty
- El_Barto
- D.B. (thinking)
- Black_raven (thinking)
- OPUS

Futurama Team
- SamuS
- Amirel
- Predator
- Dr.X
- CargoOfDarkness
- Beb (thinking)
- DJ Fry (thinking)
- Graham

Members marked as "thinking", please make your decisions, because I'm creating the new sections for your teams right now. :) If you're not going to participate, post about it here or PM me. Otherwise, you'll be allowed to see your teams' internal discussions and there will be no way back.

Beb Told me I have to join the Futurama team, so here I am. :)

Yes, everyone, I control Graham now. I was going for 'world leaders' but I need a little more practice.

/me rewires the red button

And you are very welcome, Graham.   Oh man this is going to be good!  Glad you're here Graham.   Strange that you are going to be with the Futurama team.  ;)

Graham
Wow, welcome! :) Nice to see you joined, I'm sure SamuS will be as glad.
Added you to the team... and *LOL* @ Beb. :p

Oh I think it would be really fun to read the discussion about who will draw Lisa :D
/me gets hit by cats

I'dlike to join the Simpsons team if possible, since i should have some time to dedicate to drawering in the next days. Or am i too late?

Never!!! Go on and draw! ^__^

I dont even know who is drawing who yet, so I guess that is a "YEEEEEES"!  :gigi:

CargoOfDarkness
OPUS
I'm all for seeing Marco in the Simpsons team, but SamuS should decide about that, since Marco decided to join in the middle of the contest.

Anyway, SamuS is not against, so welcome Marco to the yellow team (;)), we sure will appreciate your help!
I'm not changing anything in the forum permission settings since he's administrator anyway ;)
Also, here's the updated team status:

Simpsons Team
- Dagdamor
- Sheffa
- Ilyich
- El_Barto
- D.B.
- Black_raven
- OPUS
- SimpReal

Futurama Team
- SamuS
- Amirel
- Predator
- Dr.X
- CargoOfDarkness
- Beb
- DJ Fry (still thinking)
- Graham

Nosferaty had to quit since her computer is broken.

Sad to hear about Nosferaty, but thanks for letting me in :)

Well, since I've only got one week left in college, and doubt this will be heavily into it by then, I might as well join if theres a space. If not, ah well. I could just, waste my time playing stupid damn online games.... stupid, ugly online friggin games.. grah!

Since it's already July 15th on my site, I want to post a warning.
People (from both teams), please remember that although we don't have strict deadline yet, me and SamuS have decided that the contest ends about August 1st. That means you have only two weeks to draw your pictures. Please don't leave it for the last days, otherwise the contest will repeat the fate of our last LisaCon, when several good artists have joined but didn't post their pics. :(

D'oh! I'm going to try and finish my pic tomorrow...
I was too nervous about the exam results and I couldn't find the will to draw something... And today I went to the beach... But tomorrow my day is free from morning to night, so, I can finish it :)

:red:..sorry....
Main reason is I'm not sure which pic to do personaly cos I'm not sure which ones havn't been taken and can't find it in me to try and draw any ideas for pictures that have been taken by other artists already :red:..
Also since I've been with Mat/Casper for the past err 20 days I havn't drawn as much as I'd have liked to or even any ideas yet, so, I'm sorry :( I will try to get round to it asap once I am back home which will be a weeks time from now....

Our last LisaCon was good... show me some results - than I might show you some art...

@Simpson team...

if they need an artist of replacement or by any emergercy talk with me ... I am very punctual and can draw!  :)

(any character)  ;)
*status: avaible*

Black_raven
Weeks? The competition will be already over that time... but okay, there will be another contests in the future :)

CargoOfDarkness
It wasn't bad, but I have feeling the our previous LisaCon (2007 one) was more interesting and successful than the current one... There were less works, but more of them were from grand artists we all know. Maybe people are tired of that competitions idea, maybe we chose the wrong time for it (next time it will be winter ;)). Maybe it's because of poor judgement. But I expected more from this one, I will be honest. And about the results - we still have to publish them, but it's already evident who's the winners. :)

CCD!
Of course new artists are appreciated, if you think you have free time and desire to help - welcome to the team!

"OK sir! I am waiting instructions ..." :p

CCD!
I've added you to the Simpsons Team, the internal forum section where we discuss technical stuff, should be visible for you now. Check it, read the topic about "unoccupied" divinities and choose something you like more. :)

Now, if only someone can tell me why Marco has disappeared again...

Officer simpReal reporting for duty, sir! *falls flat face on the floor, snores*
Don't worry Dag, i am working on the competition too. Both of 'em.

SimpReal
Good, and we all (the Simpsons team) count on you :)

To make the situation a bit more transparent, SamuS and me has exchanged a bit of our teams' statuses, about how things are going on so far in both of them. Things seem to be alright, both teams have all chances to finish their pictures before the deadline. I'd even say that our team has a bit better chances... but we'll see. We are thinking about the judgement part of the contest now. Like SamuS said, he liked how the last LisaCon was judged (I believe he means the previous one, not the current one), and he'd like to ask some LTS members to be judges. So, if you want to join the jury, PM me. All you'll have to do is to post short reviews about each picture and grade it, trying to be as objective as possible.

August 1st? ouh....

/me goes get a huge cup of coffee. Make that Satue-of-liberty huge.

SimpReal
LOL :)
Look, Marco's drawing with the speed of Philip J. Fry!
Seriously, if you need any help with the technical stuff (tracing, in particular), feel free to ask.
The rules of this contest allow collaborations.

Hi!

If the contest deadline cannot be set to end of August, I will not be able to finish my work.

I'd love to have more time to finish up with my pic, if thats no problem?   My time is so limited nowdays and letting something unfiished wouldn't be fair for the contest nor the contestants.  Please give us at least two weeks of extra time, Serge.     :red:

OPUS
Remember, I'm not the contest founder/maintainer, I'm only the captain of one of the teams. I cannot prolong deadlines, you have to ask SamuS about that.
I can only say: try to finish your pic until August 1st, you still have one week left. :) It's not too little.

one week left?  :eek:

lol
Gustavo explodes....
x_X Oh God the time flies in this place... I need  take the pencil...

x_X... '' ok ok August 1st. eh?

x_X Gustavo explodes again...

boooom!   :gigi:

 :)

Question for both teams: how many of you are able to finish by the August 1st deadline? There's been a suggestion that it should be extended, and I figure there's no point in most of us rushing. Also, I'm not sure if the deadline was announced earlier on the Simpson team but the first I heard of it was on the 22nd.

So, how's everyone doing?

I am nowhere near able to finish by that deadline. Work. eats up a lot of my time these days.

Beb
I might be able to finish it... Thanks to Marco, I only need to colour the pic. He traced it for me. So, yeah, I'll able to finish it.

@Graham...

yeah! maybe is necesary 1 or 2 week more ... (maybe the August 15st) I too am very busy in my  job,   and maybe I can't finish my draw to the  August 1st ...^_^''  ...  well...is a excellent idea ask  :)

I have to agree about getting 2 extra weeks, but I guess thats up to Dagdamor and Samus to decide.   Working on a rush wouldn't be good for neither of the teams and it is obvious that work is eating most of our time.  ;)

I could make a picture for any desperate teams, not like I'm busy with work or anything at the moment, could hypotheticaly create a picture, coloured and finished by tomorrow...

i'm also quite hung up by the cvollar at the time. The picture is done and i'm making tracing but i wont manage to color it for friday, even because i've been asked for extra work at the evening hours...

Well, I've posted a request about prolonging the contest on ISFF. Asked for two extra weeks.
SamuS didn't reply yet, he disappeared few days ago, but I hope he does until August 1st.
But before he replies, please try and finish what can be finished until the deadline! :) Even if we'll have that extra time, you'll say thanks to yourselves because you'll have less work to do then. ;)

Thanks!

If we don't hear from SamuS by August 1st, may we assume that we have two more weeks? I'm quite sure that there is no point in rushing at least half the entrants here to finish for a deadline that wasn't announced at the beginning.

Beb
Sure - if SamuS doesn't appear before the contest's deadline, I'll temporarily take his role and prolong the contest for two weeks.
The only reason why I was against the prolonging is probably my curiosity - I can't wait to see what the Futurama team has created for the contest. I'm sure your pictures are perfectly competitive, but how good they are, that's the question... ;)

This is good, as I'd have probably ended up needing more time to get this thing done too. But just in case Samus comes back with a 'nay' I'll get back onto it forthwith :)

Right, it's now August 1st. Has Samus replied, or can we now have two more weeks?

I think I'll take those two extra weeks anyway, unless I'm supposed to submit my layout sketch as a final piece. Then again I think someone won a Turner Prize for something similar, so why not?

Well, in case the comp closes now i have a the flat colored version which is already a good thing for me (done in five days woo!), but with a couple more days i'm sure i can finish it for good. :)

I apologize for the delay, guys.
I had... *searches for the decent excuse* ...a full solar eclipse here
<_<
>_>

Anyway, SamuS has finally resurfaced. Work eats all his time recently (and I can understand him well), so he's not against those two extra weeks at all. Good news I guess, although I hope this change will be the last. The last day of the contest is now August 14th.

Take your time, fellow artists, but if there will be a chance to end the contest earlier, we'll try to use it. :)

Good news! Thanks, now I can go back over all my shoddy outlining.  :D

Woop-de-fucking doo, my picture just got turned into this:
(http://www.turangaleela.com/temp33/lts/crap.jpg)

Ouch...

Holy...

:o

No backup copies? :(

Graham
D'oh! I really hope you have backup... if not, it will be a loss...
/me wonders why troubles with Photoshop tend to happen with artists much more often rather than, say, with designers :(

No backups. I was going to make one right then, but I guess it was already too late by that point. :|

Ohh, I know that. "Just adding a little here and there, and then I'll hit save!" - which is about two seconds too late. Last sunday, I lost two hours of work in SimCity exactly the same way. :(

Graham
SamuS will ask the same question as soon as he appears here... are you still able to participate in the contest?
Maybe it's possible to restore the drawing somehow, maybe you have at least pencil sketch? *weak hope*
Without one divinity picture, the contest will be not complete... I hope you're still in the team. :)

One suggestion: how about extending the deadline for Graham's pic only (and for anyone else whose pics were eaten by computers that I don't know about)?

Yeah, I can do it, but I'll need more time. :)

Beb
Graham
Extending the contest for one artist is the same thing as extending it for everyone... :) We won't be able to close the contest and start judging it until all the works are there.
I'm not sure what to do. Besides, I'm leaving today so I cannot even consult with SamuS. So far I can only suggest Graham: please try and redraw your picture until August 14th, who knows, maybe you'll do it in time and the result will be even better than the corrupted one.

Greetings to Amirel! She's just registered on LTS, and she's a part of the Futurama team if you remember.
I asked her to check the Futurama team status while SamuS seems to be busy with RL stuff.
Since it's already 14th and the Futurama team doesn't seem to be ready yet, a bit later I'll post my thoughts about the contest continuation...

How many pictures are missing?

On Team Futurama, the only two I can definitely say are finished are mine and Graham's (oceans and earth). According to SamuS' notes, his isn't finished yet, but I'm not sure if there's anything being posted on ISFF. I need a good translator.  :gigi:

Phew... I finished -_-

As for Simpsons team, the ones surely finished are Fire (Sheffa), Sky (Opus), Love (me), Underworld (DB), Supreme (Ilyich), and probably Earth (Nosferaty Vampyr).

I'l lwit for Samus or for dagdamor's decision. :) Of course it appears that still some time would be welcome :D

Man, this is gonna be cool. I hope Dag noticed my PM a while back about wanting to be a judge?

Competitions sure are hard to  manage, especially with so many people from so many places :) i'm usre THey'll make us know soon.

Just a note to say I've started finishing the love deity for Team F, based on Frank's pic. I'll go as fast as I can (obviously without spraining something  :gigi:) but I don't think I can say how many days it'll be finished in.  :) 

She´s a dear, isn´t she?`Helping me, no matter how big my lazyness is.  :red: :red: :red:

That reminds me; I'll be needing your brain and eight pillowcases filled with gold.  :bart:

How is your/CoD's picture, Beb? this morning Dagdamor will be opening the official thread for the competition entries, and i think that's the only pic left.

Ah, I had no idea. The pic's going fairly well, but my free time's been cut a bit short so it'll probably take a couple of days at the most.  :)

It's September 4th, but the Futurama team still didn't tell me or SamuS that they are ready...
If I got SamuS right the last time we talked, everyone is ready in his team, except Cargo and Beb.
The Simpsons team was ready few days ago, although we still use this extra time to improve the pics. :p

Beb, I hope your pic(s) are ready now. There are some rumors about them already :)

Cargo, remember that you keep slowing others... please finish your pic until tomorrow. You had pretty enough time for that. If you can't finish it, please make a more or less decent version from it, it's still better than not posting a pic at all and will give the whole team better chances to win.

:!: Publishing the finished pics starts tomorrow, September 5th. :!:

UPD: Sorry, Marco just explained me the situation better... (I wonder how he knows :p)
I'll just wait for the final word from Beb then. :)

To clarify:

1) I'm now working on Frank's pic.

2) Said pic should be finished sometime today if nothing explodes, so should be on time for the publishing.

3) Thanks for bearing with me, everyone.  :)

Double-posting to say that the pic in question is now finished and posted -- I'm not the one to ask but I think that's all of the Futurama ones done.  :)

I totaly owe you! :D

Well... but you gonna see in a few minutes why I could not finish my work without Beb´s great help...

Nice :) i guess we're all set then. I'll wait for Dag to open up the dances with the official thread tomorrow.

Yay! "Tomorrow" starts in 12 minutes for me, hopefully, this is what Frank meant. ;)

Well, you see it in my Gallery thread.


And Beb finished my picture - its gorgeous! :D

I tried to gather up the names i remember and maybe i'm missing some info, but is there someone on the Futurama team doing the War and Underworld divinities?

Oh, thank you very much for the info. :)

Just came back from SAL (forum where Amirel and Dr.X usually appear). According to SamuS' words, Amirel's picture should be finished today. But Dr.X has disappeared and they have only a sketch from him :( SamuS will try and do something to make it look better.

Good news everyone! :D
Since both polls are closed now (more than 70 members have voted on ISFF and LTS - nice results, I'd say), and one judge (ASimpson) had posted his reviews/grades on ISFF, I think I can show you some preliminary results.
Note these are not official results! Everything still can change as soon as other judges post their reviews. But it's still something to see:

1. Team Results

(http://www.simps.ru/files/miscells/artbattle-grades1-en.gif)

Simpsons Team is leading so far, with little advantage.

2. Individual Top

(http://www.simps.ru/files/miscells/artbattle-grades2-en.gif)

Beb, Ilyich and Marco are on the top so far.

Notes: ISFF, LTS and TV (Total Votes) are amount of votes given; AGV (Average Grade by Votes) are the grades calculated based on votes; AGJ (Average Grade by Judges) are average grades made by the judge team, and FINAL grade is average from AGV and AGJ. As you can see, the system is the same as we had in LisaCons. :)

Thank you for the good job, Dag. :)

edit:
Seeing as there is only one judge that has voted so far, and seeign how much those votes are impacting on the final result, i did a "temporary" list with only the website votes. I would add the judge votes with final results only once all judges have given their rank, if dag agrees with me :)

TEMPORARY (only site vote based) results:

SimpReal
Actually, three judges (all from ISFF) have posted their grades now. I'll wait for at least one judge from LTS (;)) and will post the updated statistics.
And thanks :) I like how the table looks. Maybe I'll keep it for future, or for finishing the last LisaCon...

If I'm not mistaken, only two judges still have to post their opinions and grades about the pictures posted for the contest. Unfortunately, the most lazy ones ;) Marco and me. Marco, I ask you not to delay with your grades, I'll try to post my part this weekend too. After that, I will be able to publish the final statistics.